As for Dresden I think it was morally wrong to level cities by this point in the war given how advanced Allied night bombing tech had become. But again, Hague was written before planes became offensive weapons and did not cover bombing so it can't be a war crime if there are not laws to cover it. Cities were only protected from bombardment by land weapons and naval weapons.
So Dresden was a moral crime but not a legal crime. It certainly was a darker chapter in the allied war effort.
@Draious Given allied total air dominance the last thing you would do in daylight is form huge military columns. Even in the video above at 1:57 you can see a plane strafing a lone motor vehicle. Because of petrol restrictions no civilians in Germany would be driving motor transport, but it is not part of a huge convoy. Rommel got shot up in Normandy by a Spitfire he was driving alone in a civilian unmarked vehicle. It is not like the Germans pointed out what was military or not.
@Mcplkelly Again you are turning a blind eye to Allied warcrimes. If it was a military horse wagon, there would have been more than just one single wagon.
Just look at the beginning of the video, how reckless the pilot is flying over German towns and hills. It shows again how unprofessional and some times brutal the Americans were in Europe. Not all ofc, but many were.
What do you say about the bombing of Dresden now that we are at it?
@Draious the German army was primarily horse drawn during WWII. Only a few elite divisions were fully motorized. There is not a shred of evidence in those videos that any of those clips that those carts were civilian and not military.
I also do not expect the pilots to care given suffocating all daylight traffic was part of the Allied strategy of strangling Germany's supply lines. Even if it was hay, hay feeds horse and horses moved supplies. Such is total war.
@Draious I assume you have a credible book you can cite for that line or you are just pulling that line out of thin air.
By the way it is not a war crime to strafe a wagon, Hague never covered Aerial warfare in any depth and the one article that would have governed it (declaration I) was never ratified by Germany. And honestly I doubt you can tell using these guncam videos what was in that wagon.
@Mcplkelly the US did strafe German towns even if they just heard a rumor that the German army was in the area. I've seen a clip of a US gun cam shooting a horsewagon with hay on it. Just one of the many war crimes of the allies
As for Dresden I think it was morally wrong to level cities by this point in the war given how advanced Allied night bombing tech had become. But again, Hague was written before planes became offensive weapons and did not cover bombing so it can't be a war crime if there are not laws to cover it. Cities were only protected from bombardment by land weapons and naval weapons.
So Dresden was a moral crime but not a legal crime. It certainly was a darker chapter in the allied war effort.
Mcplkelly 1 month ago
@Draious Given allied total air dominance the last thing you would do in daylight is form huge military columns. Even in the video above at 1:57 you can see a plane strafing a lone motor vehicle. Because of petrol restrictions no civilians in Germany would be driving motor transport, but it is not part of a huge convoy. Rommel got shot up in Normandy by a Spitfire he was driving alone in a civilian unmarked vehicle. It is not like the Germans pointed out what was military or not.
Mcplkelly 1 month ago
@Mcplkelly Again you are turning a blind eye to Allied warcrimes. If it was a military horse wagon, there would have been more than just one single wagon.
Just look at the beginning of the video, how reckless the pilot is flying over German towns and hills. It shows again how unprofessional and some times brutal the Americans were in Europe. Not all ofc, but many were.
What do you say about the bombing of Dresden now that we are at it?
Draious 1 month ago
@Draious the German army was primarily horse drawn during WWII. Only a few elite divisions were fully motorized. There is not a shred of evidence in those videos that any of those clips that those carts were civilian and not military.
I also do not expect the pilots to care given suffocating all daylight traffic was part of the Allied strategy of strangling Germany's supply lines. Even if it was hay, hay feeds horse and horses moved supplies. Such is total war.
Mcplkelly 1 month ago
@Mcplkelly Ah its quite disturbing that just because the shots come from a plane, its not a warcrime to attack civilians?
Check out this video, high quality in color:
/watch?v=V6cl4TvZopA
Don't cover your "heroes" and act like they did nothing wrong at all in that war
Draious 1 month ago
@Draious I assume you have a credible book you can cite for that line or you are just pulling that line out of thin air.
By the way it is not a war crime to strafe a wagon, Hague never covered Aerial warfare in any depth and the one article that would have governed it (declaration I) was never ratified by Germany. And honestly I doubt you can tell using these guncam videos what was in that wagon.
Mcplkelly 1 month ago
@Mcplkelly the US did strafe German towns even if they just heard a rumor that the German army was in the area. I've seen a clip of a US gun cam shooting a horsewagon with hay on it. Just one of the many war crimes of the allies
Draious 1 month ago
@LOW1711 immature kid
Draious 1 month ago
2:26 What are these planes? Never seen anything like it.
BadBoy1986PL 2 months ago
music suck's thank god for the mute
49thdevil 3 months ago