Story of "Frozen Dead Guy" in Colorado

Excerpts from a Denver newscast from 1994 about Trygve Bauge and his grandfather, kept frozen in dry ice to this day.

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News & Politics

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• Cryonics
• Frozen Dead Guy

[ukrainesuperpower87]

They used vodka to freeze??? i hear dictor said vodka.. please answer who is very good english speaking

[AmericanCryonicsSoc]

The freezing in Colorado was not done by a recognized cryonics organization, but by the relative acting as an amateur. I doubt if they used vodka, but whatever they used would be different from what a professional cryonics organization would use.

[YMV1995]

@AmericanCryonicsSoc you're wrong. Bredo was cryonically preserved in California at Time Inc. (I think that was their name at that time) according to Trygve. Then, a couple years later, he was transferred to the facility in Ned. So...Bite my shiny frozen ass!

[AmericanCryonicsSoc]

@YMV1995 You are apparently correct, according to Wikipedia anyway. 'In 1989, a Norwegian citizen named Trygve Bauge brought the corpse of his recently deceased grandfather, Bredo Morstøl, to the United States." The body was preserved on dry ice for the trip, and stored in liquid nitrogen at the Trans Time cryonics facility from 1990 to 1993." Sorry for not having the facts straight.

[ThomasIRL95]

some countrys are better off without governments lol

[AmericanCryonicsSoc]

Yes. Especially THIS one.

[TheAirsoftsmith]

yes i want somebody freeze my body wake up 1000 years later and see the goverment fail.......again

[DK0526]

correction not Trygve but Bredo I meant to say would be gone...they might as well save a hair folical or his pinky for that matter and save alot of space and dry ice costs.. However, I can't see the mind structure surviving at dry ice temps. If the patterns of his mind are desolved then there is nothing left for the nanobots to repair or reassemble. If all they are doing is saving his DNA they could already extract some and clone him now without nanotech..Wallah baby gramps or at least his twin.

[ShaggRuggg]

What happened was the grandfather was frozen in Cali. They ran out of money to keep him frozen there, so they moved him there in the shed with the dry ice. The family got deported or something, and so the man stayed there frozen. And so every year, they have Frozen Dead Guy Days to keep him frozen on dry ice. Haha. - that's what some woman in Boulder who has lived there for forever told us.

[DK0526]

According to the Arrhenius Equation 1 sec of rotting at body temp is equal to 2.4 hrs at dry ice temps but it is also equal to 336 million years at liquid nitrogen temps. So assuming you leave milk out at room temp for a day it is rotten (DNA and protiens breakdown and are eaten by bacteria. That will give you about 5 yrs at dry ice before you can forget saving the mind...sure you could make a DNA clone but Trygve is gone

[DK0526]

>>> and with nanotechnology you dont need everything to be there like organs ect. You need only 1 cell out of trillions for a complete perfect copy as todays clonning already demonstrates. To save the mind you need the structural pattern or neural network that encodes all the patients memories, thoughts, or mind. Basically you just need the brain in fairly decent structural shape. Ice fracturing is OK as long as the patterns can be infered. LN2 is the only way to do so. Dry ice fails the test!

[DK0526]

@YMV1995 While it is true nanotechnology could some day turn dirt into a human that nanotechnology would still need a software program to use as a design blueprint...such as DNA which might survive under dryice temps or possibly even a mummy. However DNA info provides you with a clone only or a identical twin. The mind however is comprised of all the interconnected neurons and synapses and this structure is preserved under LN2 temps only. His mind will be long gone and even nanotech cant fix it.

[YMV1995]

@DK0526 you are laboring under false info. Cryonics depends upon Nanotechnology to revive the clients. When it's time to re-build the body from the DNA on up...it DOESN'T MATTER what condition the body is in, as long as all material is there. You could theoretically re-animate an egyptian mummy (if you had all the organs) or the "Iceman" found in a glacier in Europe. Preserving body at LN temps doesn't do anything more than slow the break down. It STILL breaks down and u still need 2 rebuild.

[YMV1995]

@YMV1995 you're hearing the word "Bauge" mispronounced as "Bodka" or something similar. Genoit can't wrap his tongue around it.