@Butmunch666 That doesn't make any sense to me. You seem to have the syntax of logic, but not quite the gist of it. The fact is that because the gov't is the educator of last resort (educating most of us), in no way presupposes that ONLY the gov't can educate. But because of the gov't being the educator of last resort, we have a 99% literacy rate. And history offers no examples of that rate otherwise.
@shadownor You are correct that the government has a hand in funding all of these programs. But you assume something huge. You assume that all these things could not be provided without the government. If we follow your logic, before government, no one build any roads, or built any schools, no one learned anything, nothing worth anything could ever be built by anyone other than the government. This assumption is just wrong.
@Xzilalnx2 1) Tautological argument won't get you far in life. Taking words out of context, or failure in reading comprehension also follows the same suit.
2) Irrelevant to the reasons I made my comment which you poorly criticized.
3) Yes, bleeding to "death" also has a very short term consequence: death. How does mindless analogies working out for you?
Waaaa! we have highways instead of cow trod paths! waaaa! We have a 99% litercy rate: statist indoctrination! Waaaa, we can't sell this utopian nonsense to people who have solid view of history. waaaaaaa! we're libertarians, how dare you want the United States of America, WE DEMAND THE UnUnited NonStates of America! That's what the non-founding fathers and non-revolutionary war has justly wrought! not!
@IxenBlaze "Actually what we want to do is limit the state so that we can preserve the freedom of the people." The state is merely the current object of unchecked and grossly aggregated private powers, due to discredited nonsense such as yours.
@o5iiawah 'Arbitrary people?' Shame! Conservatives think that the rich people are fixed and the people interchangeable; liberals think that the people are fixed and the barons interchangeable. Demand-side economics is the correct economics, that is why the 'filthy' people always do better under democratic lawmaking. SEVENTY percent of our economy is consumer spending, so if you preserve the middle-class, you preserve the economy.. Demand is prior and superior to supply.
@Butmunch666 That doesn't make any sense to me. You seem to have the syntax of logic, but not quite the gist of it. The fact is that because the gov't is the educator of last resort (educating most of us), in no way presupposes that ONLY the gov't can educate. But because of the gov't being the educator of last resort, we have a 99% literacy rate. And history offers no examples of that rate otherwise.
shadownor 6 days ago
@shadownor You are correct that the government has a hand in funding all of these programs. But you assume something huge. You assume that all these things could not be provided without the government. If we follow your logic, before government, no one build any roads, or built any schools, no one learned anything, nothing worth anything could ever be built by anyone other than the government. This assumption is just wrong.
Butmunch666 6 days ago
@Xzilalnx2 There is no crying on the Internet.
ninuxy 1 week ago
@ninuxy TT?
Xzilalnx2 1 week ago
@Xzilalnx2 1) Tautological argument won't get you far in life. Taking words out of context, or failure in reading comprehension also follows the same suit.
2) Irrelevant to the reasons I made my comment which you poorly criticized.
3) Yes, bleeding to "death" also has a very short term consequence: death. How does mindless analogies working out for you?
ninuxy 1 week ago
Waaaa! we have highways instead of cow trod paths! waaaa! We have a 99% litercy rate: statist indoctrination! Waaaa, we can't sell this utopian nonsense to people who have solid view of history. waaaaaaa! we're libertarians, how dare you want the United States of America, WE DEMAND THE UnUnited NonStates of America! That's what the non-founding fathers and non-revolutionary war has justly wrought! not!
shadownor 1 week ago
@shadownor
Dude.... When you try to put words in my mouth, your not even worth arguing with....
IxenBlaze 1 week ago
@IxenBlaze "Actually what we want to do is limit the state so that we can preserve the freedom of the people." The state is merely the current object of unchecked and grossly aggregated private powers, due to discredited nonsense such as yours.
shadownor 2 weeks ago
@o5iiawah 'Arbitrary people?' Shame! Conservatives think that the rich people are fixed and the people interchangeable; liberals think that the people are fixed and the barons interchangeable. Demand-side economics is the correct economics, that is why the 'filthy' people always do better under democratic lawmaking. SEVENTY percent of our economy is consumer spending, so if you preserve the middle-class, you preserve the economy.. Demand is prior and superior to supply.
shadownor 2 weeks ago
@knearhood8 I doubt that's true, you're not doubt correlating US and allied debts with the persons that Allied nations rebuild.
shadownor 2 weeks ago