Part 2 From Islam to Agnosticism, Universalism, Eastern Philosophy (Hinduism, Buddhism)

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[MuslimPerspective786]

Well, I think the points in your video are very irrational and full of contradictions. If you could, explain to me what had MADE you to move away from Islam. Because most of the points you had brought up in your videos can be refuted.

[Orthodox786]

@MuslimPerspective786 What led me away from Islam was the doctrine of Hell ... I would love for you to try and demonstrate your claims of "full of contradictions" and "very irrational" ... please do :-) But if you are unable, would you then do yourself the greatest favor and with humility liberate yourself from the bondage of indoctrination?

[NASTYNINETY1]

There is an irony in what you have to say in that while you denounce Christianity and Islam for "exclusivity", what you currently hold to as "the truth" is in fact "exclusive" in itself. Renouncing Islam, I can understand, but rejecting Christianity on this basis only is irresponsible. We can't go before God and present the argument, "I didn't know or you didn't give me enough information!". There is plenty of information available!

[Orthodox786]

@NASTYNINETY1 I would say I have come to the truth that I do not know ... This was the same realization that Socrates had. Sincerely, I do not know what the ultimate reality behind our existence is. I don't think this is an exclusivity claim because I would argue that all of humanity does not know, we only have beliefs relative to our experiences and knowledge.

[Orthodox786]

@farhan00 When you are looking down from heaven at all the people in Hell who are begging you for water in complete agony and moaning and screaming as the Quran describes you Muslims will do ... then I wonder if you would make such a "pleasure is good, pain is bad is not the real issue" argument ... Its not just lil 'ol me who is at the cusp of a new spiritual evolution, its humanity as we know it ...

[hrantnano]

at least he thinks for himself.... where as you ...have no sagacity to think for yourself..

you are a follower.... all religious peoiple are in deep sleep,.scared to wake up,and see the nonesense of all religions .

[hrantnano]

you born and bathed culturally in your relgion..so what comes out of your mouth is not you speaking..if you were born in another religion..you would blabber about that eligion..

sagacity and lucidity ,is when YOU decide ..not what has been shoved down your throat and twisted your brain....the speaker is brave...to think forr himself..and not be a zombie,like most religious people(jews,christians or muslims)..you have been deprived of yourfreedom ...this guy has awakened !!!

[orgolioitalia1]

@Orthodox786 It is good you are in fine state using reason and justify your understanding and hope you will soon back because a good thinking mind will be lead to the truth if one is really honest in his attention.

about your feeling(emotional grief) on Hamza Tzortzis there is a promise recorded about believers in the Quran.

All the praises and thanks be to Allah, Who has removed from us [all] grief.

(Qur'an 35: 34)

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@00ismaeL001

everyone will be judged based on what they knew and what they didnt, everyone is either going to hell or paradise. life is an enactment of the internal kernel of faith or disbelief.

[AhmadiyyaChannel]

@00ismaeL001

I hear the musicians carried on playing music as the titanic sank. I small solace as you sink into a meaningless abyss.

[00ismaeL001]

@TheAhmadiyyacult Muhammad was asked by one of the companions where both of their fathers were, men who had died before Islam, Muhammad said that both of their fathers were hell.

Now why would people who did not know about Islam be in hell?