A caller attempts a Cosmological Argument - Part 2 of 2
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@TheCh1212 Ask MULTIPLE people who will confirm their religion with proof shown through THEIR life. Why don't you believe THEM? Why should I believe YOU. You just sound like a LUNATIC to me. Pray as much as you want, but hands that take action are far more useful than hands clasped in prayer. Pray to your God, and see if he answers your prayer. Pray to him and beg him to make me see the light right here, while talking to you. That's my challenge to you. Because honestly all I'm doing is laughing
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@TheCh1212 Again, referring to the Bible to make arguments when you have given me no reason to believe anything the Bible says is true. Also, I would rather be in hell that with a psychopathic, prideful, tyrannical, bafoon, that is your God. He would sooner let a repenting mass murderer, rapist, serial killer, child molester, into heaven having being "saved" than a moral atheist into heaven. The Bible is a book, it is not proof, there is this thing, it's called FICTION. There are many religions.
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@strkszone i teach what the Bible puts it as "He who believes not is condemmed ALREADY",im just showing you WHY you are. Gods job is to Judge,my job is to tell you of this judgement,if i knew it to be true and i DIDNT tell you i'd be worse off than the start. The Bible is proof. He told me through His word,and confirmed it with proof showing through my life. I dont save anyone,i just pray that your conscience convicts you to know you've broken His 10 Commandments and you need to Repent.
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@TheCh1212 I do not believe God forgave you of your sins, because obviously you're an immoral biggot who preaches hatred and condemns people by passing judgement on them, isn't that God's job? You were told that God would do all those things, but you have no proof that this is true. Did God actually tell you that you are forgiven? If he did I suggest you seek medical help immediately. You clearly aren't very good at saving others, me, being a primary example. All I'm doing is laughing at you.
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@TheCh1212 I had all those fruits as a Christian, and still have the "fruits" of Righteousness, Good works, and giving thanks. As far as I'm concerned you've lost since you have addressed my unicorn analogy, my harry potter analogy, and my pointing out of your application of the no true scottsman logical fallacy. Your heart is still the same, it pumps blood. Yes it's funny what the brain can do. You wanted to trust the savior so you want to do God's will, that's obvious.
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@TheCh1212 I did that as well. I said no to sin, but fell into sin, which I'm sure you've done multiple times even since you've been saved. Trusted in Jesus which is what defines Christianity. So I did that as well as asked for forgiveness, which you're meant to do. As an atheist, I don't even know what the word "Spiritual" means. If it means immaterial, I can claim that energy is spirit then, as is electricity.
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@strkszone (PART 3) and when i repented and put my trust in the Savior,i would be given what the prophecy said Jesus would do,that God would give me a new heart with new desires to do God's Will,that i would be forgiven of every sin,and wouldnt go to Hell,but spend eternity with God in Heaven,and given the knowledge and ability to save others (yet not me but Christ) by the power of the Gospel by doing the Great Commission
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@strkszone (PART 2) The difference was my lifestyle (aka Repentance lol) and other fruit actually Biblically there is. The fruit of the Spirit,Righteousness,Good Works,Thanksgiving,and Repentance.---And i wasnt told this as a child in fact i use to BE a FALSE CONVERT because of the "sinners prayer" for 9 YEARS TOO! Until i was shown Gods standard used for Judgement Day,the 10 Commandments,why and how i needed a Savior,that if i Repented and Trusted Christ (PART 2)
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@strkszone lol heck no i didnt,that would mean that im saving myself. No i did exactly what the Bible says,what Jesus said,what Paul and all the other Apostles said,i Repented (TURNED from sin) and TRUSTed in the Savior (Not just "believed"). I know this,because the Bible confirms this by giving the Holy Spirit to live in you and work through you and build you spiritually producing spiritual fruit. (PART 1)
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@TheCh1212 So you didn't open your heart and ask Jesus to resolve you of your sins and kneel before the cross? You didn't beg the lord for forgiveness? Because THAT is PRAYER. How do you KNOW God gave you his grace and "saved" you? Hmm? What difference did you see in your life when you were changed. Because honestly I don't believe any of the shit that's been coming out of your mouth, since you have proven to believe in fairy tales that mommy and daddy told you when you were younger.
I love to watch a battle of wits when one is unarmed.
cdhanks 5 months ago 5
After the call he ate one of his crayons.
taffwob 4 months ago 3