He added 4 measures of 16th note arpeggio's of his own at the climax before the cadenza that weren't written by Mozart.I like Mozart's original version using just 4 dotted half notes making the climax so subtle yet still powerful allowing the chord progression alone achieve the effect.But I also like the idea of the performer being able to improvise which was still common right up until Beethoven demanded his works played perfectly except when he performed them .Then he would improvise whenever
I know it's incredibly ill mannered to clap in between movements... but man it's SO hard to hold applause after such an amazing performance. I would have to go to this concert with my hands tied to keep from clapping after the first movement. Simply amazing.
Fact:only 1 person signed up for Mozart's subscription concert with both the c and d minor concertos,probably the 1 person was someone who helped organize it,so in other words no one did.Whether it was the fault of the audience of Vienna's fickle tastes or the success of Mozart's jealous enemies doesn't change history.Since Mozart was a pianist,his 2 greatest compositions were the piano concerto in d minor and this one ,while not being as famous was actually the greater of the 2.This IS history
classical and jazz are my two favorite musical genres, that is only significant because I am only twelve years old. I love how mozart is able to express himself and accomplish such a..... uniqueness. I listen to thelonious monk and john coltrane for the same reason.
Why does he make conducting movements with his hands, (or even just one available hand), at every possible opportunity? When he can't, then he anyway does nothing.
Interesting that one would say that Beethoven's concertos are more varied than Mozart: I always found the opposite to be the case. Beethoven's concertos seem always to end with a similarly styled rondo. Also, the middle movements of the first 3 look alike in my experience, and while those of the last two are absolutely beautiful, they both work towards a dissonant climax after which nothing happens that can rival it. His first movements were superb however (though I simply like Mozart better).
I reckon Mozart would have smiled at the ;jazzy' cadenza..........it certainly sounds improvised.....if bordering on Liszt at one point! lol!
silverdalesapphires 6 months ago
@Sim882
"Cramer, Cramer! We shall never be able to compose anything
like that!" Beethoven, after the two had heard Mozart's concerto in C-minor
at a concert in the Augarten.
"I have always reckoned myself among the greatest admirers of
Mozart, and shall do so till the day of my death." Beethoven to Stadler in 1826
Asked about which of Mozart's operas he thought most of. 'Die Zauberflote' said
Beethoven, and, suddenly clasping his hands and throwing up his
eyes, exclaimed: 'Oh, Mozart!'
pinznrom 8 months ago
He added 4 measures of 16th note arpeggio's of his own at the climax before the cadenza that weren't written by Mozart.I like Mozart's original version using just 4 dotted half notes making the climax so subtle yet still powerful allowing the chord progression alone achieve the effect.But I also like the idea of the performer being able to improvise which was still common right up until Beethoven demanded his works played perfectly except when he performed them .Then he would improvise whenever
rematpac 9 months ago
Beethoven, "i could never surpass this".
youtube musical genius, "this is not that great".
devilxhlywood 11 months ago
I know it's incredibly ill mannered to clap in between movements... but man it's SO hard to hold applause after such an amazing performance. I would have to go to this concert with my hands tied to keep from clapping after the first movement. Simply amazing.
Monkore33 1 year ago
Fact:only 1 person signed up for Mozart's subscription concert with both the c and d minor concertos,probably the 1 person was someone who helped organize it,so in other words no one did.Whether it was the fault of the audience of Vienna's fickle tastes or the success of Mozart's jealous enemies doesn't change history.Since Mozart was a pianist,his 2 greatest compositions were the piano concerto in d minor and this one ,while not being as famous was actually the greater of the 2.This IS history
rematpac 1 year ago
classical and jazz are my two favorite musical genres, that is only significant because I am only twelve years old. I love how mozart is able to express himself and accomplish such a..... uniqueness. I listen to thelonious monk and john coltrane for the same reason.
Framedmact 1 year ago
@MimasS56 Doesnt the 3rd movement of the 20th close out with piano accompying the orchestra?
Mozartmostly 1 year ago
Why does he make conducting movements with his hands, (or even just one available hand), at every possible opportunity? When he can't, then he anyway does nothing.
violin614 1 year ago
Interesting that one would say that Beethoven's concertos are more varied than Mozart: I always found the opposite to be the case. Beethoven's concertos seem always to end with a similarly styled rondo. Also, the middle movements of the first 3 look alike in my experience, and while those of the last two are absolutely beautiful, they both work towards a dissonant climax after which nothing happens that can rival it. His first movements were superb however (though I simply like Mozart better).
henripche 1 year ago