Xenakis Concret PH
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thank you for posting this. i love it
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How can a guy with such a stupid nickname (fender + skater) think he's entitled to diss other people's opinions on the definition of music? I love both Fender and skateboarding, but blending those two words to create a name just shows how limited you knowledge is. Try to read a book now and then, @fenderskater46
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@vince1389 It's my opinion: it's just boring...
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@claudiogoldman BURN!!!!!!!
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There is something about removing the boundaries in Xenakis' work... This piece is limitless... His works eradicates boundaries between different cultures and arts… Between sound and music…
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@fenderskater46 "Art consists of limitation. The most beautiful part of a picture is its frame" - G.K Chesterton
I believe that by taking sound and presenting it as music, you are placing a specific frame around that sound and it becomes music to those who choose to see it as music. Rhythm, melody, harmony, and timbre are elements of frequency content over time. Many avant garde pieces are very carefully structured, even if they don't follow the arbitrary boundaries of classical structure.
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This piece is driven by the musical element of timbre. Timbre is the musical phenomenon that separates sounds like the human voice singing a note and a piano playing that same note. The sounds are obviously quite different. This piece is based off that element according to it's different pitches in whatever Xenakis is using to create the sounds. Whether you think it's music or not, doesn't matter. At the end of the day, Xenakis is a composer who writes what...Music. :)
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@fenderskater46 I'm sorry I forgot we were supposed to submit ourselves to what fenderskater46 thinks music is. It is fenderskater46 after all who knows exactly what tone colors and textures are music and which aren't and apparently which are music "to an extent". After all, we know that indie films aren't really films since they weren't made in Hollywood maybe some are films "to an extent"
Seriously, please shove your musical hyper-conservatism up your ass and spare us your ideological bullshit
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@fenderskater46 Yes, let's do. Music is sound and sound is music, and the meaning doesn't get better than that. I feel sorry for all the people who try to limit what music can and can't be. They miss out on so many beautiful experiences...
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@unholy1988 Lets keep the meaning of music steadfast.
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@unholy1988 ...REAL music incorporates a combination of significant forms of rhythm, melody, harmony, and color. And i know you will say, "well that's just a definition, it can be anything an artist wants it to be" THAT'S FINE, JUST DON'T CALL IT MUSIC PLEASE. If you want to take the sounds of traffic, and arrange it with an established rhythm, and a set of different pitches, you can call that music, to an extent. But don't bend the brackets of music by trying to say that pure sounds are music.
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Just noise... I can use it in a video about building...
claudiogoldman 1 year ago
@claudiogoldman Noise its just a sound unconfortable or not liked by someone, so maybe for you its just noise, because noise is a subjetive adjetive. For me this is music, traffic's sound is music and a train stopping in a underground station is music.
Music and art have no limits, but we are always trying to put limits to them so we feel we are not dumb. But we are dumb. "Ignoramus et ignorabimus". Try to learn your own limits before saying that something is not music/art
unholy1988 1 year ago 16
Then try to get it.
unholy1988 3 years ago