@memoriedream I don't think there is anything ethically wrong with suicide attack, if the target is a sociopathic monster, to save many lives under attack, but shouldnt be used in general warfare. Its ethically wrong to coerce/encourage or brainwash others to spend their life in a suicide attack. Ass a tool to secure an ideology by killing those who challenge it its utterly unethical. Not only in this case is it utterly unethical but the idea of using it for this purpose debases human life.
@memoriedream Rather, the word Mischeif, elsewhere in the Quran, is used for going against islamic principles generally.
Therefore the Quranic verse - that says killing a soul is like killing all of mankind, except if you are killing a person for creating mischeif - absurdly, gives license to any Muslim to kill others as long as those others are going against Islam in some way.
This is the fundamenalist perspective, and I believe is more widely prescribed to than most think.
@memoriedream You know that verse. So you know it is okay to kill someone for creating mischeif while omitting that part (editing it out and sewing the other two ends of the Quranic verse together, as if it never exised) and using it as evidence to the Western media in your cause to elicit the belief that Islam is so very peaceful and innocuous.
If you look at the definition of Mischeif elsewhere in the Quran, it is plain to see that this word is not only used for egregious crimes...
@memoriedream Actually, he point blank 1:40 says its okay if its being done as punishment for "creating mischeif". This is directly from the Quran
Non-fundamentalists leave out the exception and just say "If you kill a soul it is as if you have killed all of mankind" but that is the edited version with a part removed and two parts sewn together. The unedited version says except (meaning ok to kill) those who commit mischeif. Read the Quran itself. He is saying suicide bombing is permitted.
@MichealStagner1101 Hey I'm saying that he is not making it halal and i know its haram so you can just copy paste that next to "youtube.com" and you'll get the video. he is talking about the same thing but its clear in that video that he is not supporting suicide bombing!
@TheShaunGawler Anyone who says that suicide bombing is halal has done Kufr Al Istihlal. It is completely haram to offer salah behind such people. unfortunately It is not possible to send links here but you can read "The Hijacked Caravan" Salafi refutation of Anwar Al Awlaki part# 2. And Kitab At Tawheed about Kufr Al Istihlal. It is the 9:31 verse of holy Quran
@memoriedream Anyone who says that suicide bombing is halal has done Kufr Al Istihlal. It is completely haram to offer salah behind such people. unfortunately It is not possible to send links here but you can read "The Hijacked Caravan" Salafi refutation of Anwar Al Awlaki part# 2. And Kitab At Tawheed about Kufr Al Istihlal. It is the 9:31 verse of holy Quran.
@TheShaunGawler im not saying anything bad, im muslim my self, but im not arab and im not religous but i read somewhere that its ok to fight in war including harming your self in gods name
In Badar War or any wars during the time of Rasulullah - are there any sort of suicide killing? Are there any examples from Rasulullah war strategy?
If the answer is NO, please don't do it! I'm a muslim.
enemdy 1 month ago
@memoriedream I don't think there is anything ethically wrong with suicide attack, if the target is a sociopathic monster, to save many lives under attack, but shouldnt be used in general warfare. Its ethically wrong to coerce/encourage or brainwash others to spend their life in a suicide attack. Ass a tool to secure an ideology by killing those who challenge it its utterly unethical. Not only in this case is it utterly unethical but the idea of using it for this purpose debases human life.
BarclayAvenue1000 2 months ago
@memoriedream Rather, the word Mischeif, elsewhere in the Quran, is used for going against islamic principles generally.
Therefore the Quranic verse - that says killing a soul is like killing all of mankind, except if you are killing a person for creating mischeif - absurdly, gives license to any Muslim to kill others as long as those others are going against Islam in some way.
This is the fundamenalist perspective, and I believe is more widely prescribed to than most think.
BarclayAvenue1000 2 months ago
@memoriedream You know that verse. So you know it is okay to kill someone for creating mischeif while omitting that part (editing it out and sewing the other two ends of the Quranic verse together, as if it never exised) and using it as evidence to the Western media in your cause to elicit the belief that Islam is so very peaceful and innocuous.
If you look at the definition of Mischeif elsewhere in the Quran, it is plain to see that this word is not only used for egregious crimes...
BarclayAvenue1000 2 months ago
@BarclayAvenue1000 I know that verse and nothing's gonna fool me. So are you with suicide bombing OR WHAT?
memoriedream 2 months ago
@memoriedream Actually, he point blank 1:40 says its okay if its being done as punishment for "creating mischeif". This is directly from the Quran
Non-fundamentalists leave out the exception and just say "If you kill a soul it is as if you have killed all of mankind" but that is the edited version with a part removed and two parts sewn together. The unedited version says except (meaning ok to kill) those who commit mischeif. Read the Quran itself. He is saying suicide bombing is permitted.
BarclayAvenue1000 2 months ago
@MichealStagner1101 Hey I'm saying that he is not making it halal and i know its haram so you can just copy paste that next to "youtube.com" and you'll get the video. he is talking about the same thing but its clear in that video that he is not supporting suicide bombing!
memoriedream 5 months ago
@TheShaunGawler Anyone who says that suicide bombing is halal has done Kufr Al Istihlal. It is completely haram to offer salah behind such people. unfortunately It is not possible to send links here but you can read "The Hijacked Caravan" Salafi refutation of Anwar Al Awlaki part# 2. And Kitab At Tawheed about Kufr Al Istihlal. It is the 9:31 verse of holy Quran
MichealStagner1101 5 months ago
@memoriedream Anyone who says that suicide bombing is halal has done Kufr Al Istihlal. It is completely haram to offer salah behind such people. unfortunately It is not possible to send links here but you can read "The Hijacked Caravan" Salafi refutation of Anwar Al Awlaki part# 2. And Kitab At Tawheed about Kufr Al Istihlal. It is the 9:31 verse of holy Quran.
MichealStagner1101 5 months ago
@TheShaunGawler im not saying anything bad, im muslim my self, but im not arab and im not religous but i read somewhere that its ok to fight in war including harming your self in gods name
TheShaunGawler 5 months ago