Chess Opening: A Trap in the Torre Attack
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no cuzz Bg6 # after black's f6!
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Good video! I'm goona go try it right now!!!!
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@GreenCastleBlock THIS is a great TRAP no body I have played can see it until too late.
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ok i like it
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@leoseanster reply Bh4..
if ur opponent hits g5..he cannot castle on the king side bcoz
the place where the king is placed will be bold..then it can be open
if he moved g5 he lets white to attack.. see..?? i hope u can understand tnx :D :D :D
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i have been caught out by this move .
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Why not Nh5 in 3:05 ?
If Qh4 - Bxg5, 2) Qxh5 - Bh6 and black looks cool. He can play d4 any time to open his bishops diagonal
or Qh4 - Bxg5, 2) Bxh7+ - Kxh7, 3) Qxh5+ - Bh6 Black is still cool
if g4 - Bxg5 (bad move)
maybe Bxh7+ first - Kxh7. Now Qh4,Qc2+,Nf3,g4 all are ridiculus moves. Black is still fine and can hold against white's threats (Bxg5,f6,d4 etc)
obanoban 1 year ago 2
@obanoban That's quite a good suggestion actually...
White should trade bishops on e7. 11...Nh5 12.Bxe7 Qxe7
Now 13.g4? looks like it wins a piece but after 13...f5! Black is better, the piece can't be taken due to ...Qg5+ and ...d4+.
13.Be2, attacking the N, is best. 13...g6 is forced. Now 14.Bxh5 gxh5 15.f4 might be a little better for White but Black's position has plenty of potential.
Still for Black, I'd rather avoid this trap with an early ...h6, than allow White to play this line.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago 3
After Ne5, black's best option is a6. The position is equalized here, so the Qa4 idea doesn't help much since you're going for a kingside attack with the Torre
akkumeduri 1 year ago
@akkumeduri If White is allowed to play Ne5 and f4, that is what he wants. (In most positions Ne5 can be met with ..Nxe5 where white has to take with the d pawn and give Black a mobile center)
Objectively you are right, the Qa4 idea should not be dangerous, but it contains some funny ideas, another idea being Rae1 and then return the Queen to d1, and play for a center push.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago
I beg to differ. I don't think the Torre Attack is at all dangerous. My program, ChessMaster GM Edition analyzed the Torre, and found the refutation for 10. Ne5. Black can still safely capture the knight on e5. But, after 10..Nxe5, 11. dxe5, then Black can simply play 11.. Ne4 !! The only thing Black loses is a pawn, after 12. Bxe7, 12.. Qxe7, 13. Nxe4, ..dxe4, 14. Bxe4, ..Bxe4, 15. Qxe4 (1+/0)
PrettyBoySexy2 1 year ago
@PrettyBoySexy2 Beg to differ with what? After 11...Ne4 White wins a clean center pawn, and if he plays decently afterwards he should win. It's the best possible move but it doesn't refute anything, it just loses slower.
GreenCastleBlock 1 year ago