Mountain Meadows Massacre

What are the historical roots and causes behind the Mountain Meadow Massacre? Let real historians inform us.

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[godscuttingyoudown]

this is moron propaganda to make the morons innocent of the event

lie #1 the Mormons felt threatened that these immigrants were going to harm them.

lie #2 the Mormons were driven out of the east into Utah. the Mormons were the ones that caused trouble, they left for Utah to start a cult, because cults need isolation to grow

lie #3 Brigham young was trying to stop it with a last minute message was nothing more than PR damage control when the story reached the press

[blutowpi]

@godscuttingyoudown John D Lee also said that Bungham Young had given the order to kill the wagon train. So much for the propaganda piece I just watched. These mormon prophets fail every test the bible puts forth to test the prophets whether they be from God. God knew there would be many false prophets so he gave us a way to test the "prophet". Not feeling a warm fuzzy feeling in our tummys. Jalapenos will do that. How lazy to trust your soul to feelings rather than truth found in the bible

[scottwins2]

Accuses with no facts again...

[wovokanarchy]

@scottwins2 Keep living in denial just like certain holocaust deniers.

[scottwins2]

@wovokanarchy If you say it enough you think people will believe you what my moral compass is? I think the whole thing is sad, very sad. But you changing the topic awyay from Brigham Young does not make him guilty. You have no facts and no proof. Just your bias, biggotry on the matter. We have a copy of the letter he sent telling the Saints to not do anything, you have nothing. this is my last note on the matter. So go have your last say and accuse and accuse with no facts.

[Jz81650]

@blutowpi, I meant to say that some of your claims come from misconceptions..

[Jz81650]

@blutowpi, disclaimer here. Some of your facts do have truth but some just plain stupid. I have done tons of research on the LDS faith and Church because I want to find any loop hole I can. To this point I have found none. Some of our claims are just claims made from mis conceptions. Read the Book Of Mormon and ask God the questions. It's obvious he is the only one that you will believe.

[Jz81650]

@blutowpi, was Joseph Smith the editor of Times and Season at that time. Is putting words into a Prophets mouth count as a Prophets words? I would check your facts again. Prophets are men. I agree that BY did take part in the COVER UP but that had more to do with the threat of California and the Us Army. It's been said that if the Civil War had not happened the US Army would have ended mormonism. Especially after the massacre. But d this is opinion from scholars. Why don't you do the research f

[Jz81650]

@blutowpi, again your quotes are factual statements made by leaders on the LDS church but they are considered OPINION. They are not Official Church Doctrine. It never will change with you guys. Same cards same hand....

[wovokanarchy]

@scottwins2 There is no evidence Osama Bin Ladin planned the attack also but he created the environment for 9-11 to occur. Jim Jones didn't personally force to drink the cool-aid but he created the environment for it to occur. B Young may not have given the direct order but he created the environment for the masscre to occur. Keep defending the racist Mormon church Scott and also the mass killing of American women and children. At least we now know where your moral compass is on mass murder.

[blutowpi]

I dont blame Mormons for running away from what the "prophets said in the past. I would never follow an organization that claims to be true but its entire foundation is so riddled by flim flam men who claimed to speak for God. Blacks cursed forever. Inter racial couples killed. Men on the moon and sun. Polygamy required for salvation. God having sex with the virgin Mary. Jews coming to America. Gold disappearing plates in deformed egyptian. Magic underwear. Magic spectacles. Men becoming gods.

[blutowpi]

Have you Mormons been to the temple in Independence Mo. ? I doubt it because its another false prophesy of the one true churchs prophet. we can say we built this temple for as the Lord lives we will build up Jackson county in this generation, (cries of amen,) and we will be far better off with regard to temporal things, when we have done, than ever we were before. - Times and Seasons 6:956 (April 6, 1845) As the Lord lives??? Mormongod never existed . Hes as much god as a cow in India

[blutowpi]

@Jz81650 Hear the word of god thru Brigham your beloved "prophet"

In the days of Joseph it was considered a great privilege to be permitted to speak to a member of Congress, but twenty-six years will not pass away before the Elders of this Church will be as much thought of as the kings on their thrones. - JoD 4:40 (Aug 31, 1856)

Its 2012 and Mormon elders are still not thought of as kings. Just bike pedaling folks pushing a counterfeit god , jesus who is the devils brother and a false gospel

[blutowpi]

@Jz81650 We agree. I dont blame the Mormon people. I blame the false prophets they worship with pictures on their walls and the system of religion that replaces a personal relationship with the creator of the Universe. Jesus Christ. The Muslims follow their leaders too as Brighams followers did when he ordered the murder at Mtn Meadows. Both systems follow a man who claims to be a prophet and lies about what God supposedly told them. I pity Mormons and Muslims who are so blinded by wolves

[scottwins2]

@Jz81650 Exactly, there is no evidence that Brigham Young gave any order to attack that wagon train. NONE!

[scottwins2]

@blutowpi As the Mob before, you offer no facts, just accusations. There is no evidence that Brigham Young ordered any attack on that wagon train no matter how much you howl.

[scottwins2]

@wovokanarchy You can squeal like a stuck pig all you want. There is no evidence that Brigham Young gave any order to attack that wagon train. Instead of offering facts you are stuck in your on biggotry of Mormons.

[Jz81650]

What happen was a tragedy and murder but you can't condemn the Mormon religion or it's people for bad choices made by others who happened to be Mormons. It's like saying that all Muslims are bad because of the few Muslims who carried out the 911 attacks.

[Jz81650]

@IExposeMormonism, you continue to bring up the Martial Law Declaration without saying why it was issued. Brigham Young was preparing for the Utah war and felt that the US Army was coming to Utah to finish off Mormonism once and for all. This being based on what California newspapers where saying about Mormons in Utah.Young was preparing the people for a standoff. You obviously use partial statements to make a so called point. As a Mormon I'm used to this from anti mormonism. Most of the time y

[blutowpi]

Shall I tell you the law of God in regard to the African race? If the white man who belongs to the chosen seed mixes his blood with the seed of Cain, the penalty, under the law of God, is death on the spot. This will always be so. - JoD: vol.10 p. 110: (March 8, 1863) Notice this is from God according to the liar B Young. I would strike his racist name from the BYU campus. He lied about what God said then. You cannot trust a word he ever uttered. He lied about men becoming gods too

[blutowpi]

Any "prophet " who said that a white person who marries a negro should be killed according to mormongod would not hesitate to slay a group of folks in a wagon train if he thought it could be a threat to his power in the area. Brigham was a liar and a murderer and no prophet of God. Mormongod is a creation of Joe Smith and Briggy and the band of so called prophets elected ever since. Mormons need to repent and come to the God of creation who died for their sins and loves them. Morgod is imaginary

[wovokanarchy]

@scottwins2 And your basing on your defense of mass murder on what? Religious fundamentalism, a video based on lies, a racist institution like the Mormon Church? How can you defend mass murder of Americans? You might as well defend the mass murder of the victims in New York by extreme Muslims on 9-11.Your extreme religious fundamentalism are from the same source.

[scottwins2]

@blutowpi "Lee's claim that George A. Smith met Lee in southern Utah on 1 September with orders of destruction was impossible, Smith was in Salt Lake on that very day. ...which we can verify...

[scottwins2]

The isolation of the Mormon communities (before telegraph) incomplete news of the approaching U.S. Army, fear of non-Mormons, and other factors lead to paranoia on the part of the Mountain Meadows com

[scottwins2]

@wovokanarchy Again no facts as usual just accusations.

[wovokanarchy]

@scottwins2 You accuse me of being ''ignorant'' but you apologize for a massive crime committed by the Mormon Church through the direct orders of BY. Why would BY send a report to the Dept.of Ndn Affairs blaming the Indians for the massacre and trying to cover up the crime? In modern day criminal investigations such behaviour would most definitely hold up in a court of law as to the guilt of B Young's culpability to this mass murder at the hands of Mormons. Religious fanatics like you fail to un

[scottwins2]

@wovokanarchy John D. Lee was not authorized by Brigham Young or the Apostles to attack these people. You accuse with mob fervor yet provide no facts that the church at large was invovled in this attack. None, nor can you chow it nor will you since it does not exist. As for me being a coward? You don't know me so don't be ignorant.