Abdullah al Andalusi vs Dr James White: Does the Trinity equal polytheism?

Radio debate between Abdullah and Christian apologist, Dr James White on the topic: Does the Trinity necessitate polytheism? Debate held on Christian Premier Radio, the programme was aired 15th November 2008

Here is a Christian's blog writer's (known as 'Apologiaphoenix') appraisal of the debate:

"Honestly, I don't think James White did great on this and was disappointed by him. It seems he never answered the rational objections that were given but just said "The Bible teaches this." Yeah. That's what the Bible teaches, but if the Muslim already believed what the Bible teaches, we wouldn't have this problem?

Not to say that the Muslim did much better. I found him quite unconvincing, though it has been awhile since I last listened."

His comment can be found on the theology web forum:

http://www.theologyweb.com/campus/showthread.php?t=121719

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[mujtahid2006]

@soterioss8787

"The Jews had very much the same view for thousands of years before Mohammad"

Exactly - the truth is eternal, not something new. You've just answered yourself.

[livingforchrist1225]

By the way, I couldn't tell, but these posts were for you itsmrfz, you probably wont see them in your email, so anywho, GOD BLESS :)

[lionabbass]

@YetzerTov12 Moses got what he got of revelation in one event which included the 10 Commandments, while he returned to your installing a Yahweh in form of golden calf. Do you think God will talk to idolaters except to either punish or warn them? DO you think God will talk to idolaters in the manner you are suggesting with your forefathers? Jeremiah says that you doctored what was revealed to Moses. Why doctored? Jeremiah said because they thin they are wise, maybe wiser than G-d?

[lionabbass]

@YetzerTov12 Allah took muslims from oppression in Makka and planted them in Madina and return them to Makka to rid it of paganism. Yahweh never return the children of Israel to own Egypt. think about that. Allah completes His Favor of Upright Faith on Muslims. Has your G-d done that for you since you can be a jew and be a buhhdist, a jew by religion and be a buhhdist, while if you are true Muslim the Quran and authentic hadith forbids you to be anything else but a Muslim. think.

[lionabbass]

@YetzerTov12 miidst of the fire? was that not the burning bush when Moses was alone? Prophet Jeremiah was truthful when he called out the lies of the jews corrupting the revelation given to late Moses. The children of Israel said to Moses we do not want to hear God lest we die. Which is it hearing God or leaving hearing God to Prophet Moses who was protected and chosen by God. Your lip service of writing G-d asGod will not benefit your dishonesty.

[lionabbass]

@YetzerTov12 lets be honest; Moses never start a religion, but followed the religion of Abraham, who followed the religion of Noah, who followed the religion of Adam and none and it was not jewish religion. your forefathers could have been more than 3 mils. the reality is that they made a golden God and they were idolaters the reason they spent 40 years on a next day journey. You must tell us when Moses start a religion and was it putting sticking prayer paper in a wall?

[YetzerTov12]

@lionabbass Incidentally, I know that you as a Muslim must believe that G-d (a) revealed Torah and (b) that the Torah as we have it is somehow not the same Torah that G-d gave at Sinai, before 3,000,000 individuals. You believe this is true why? Because you must believe that the Qur'an is true; which you would not have if not for one individual claiming revelation, just as every other religion does.

All this aside: Allahu Akbar and Baruch Hashem. May our lives be pleasing to G-d.

[YetzerTov12]

@lionabbass Or has any god performed miracles to come and take him a nation from the midst of a[nother] nation, with trials, with signs, and with wonders, and with war and with a strong hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with great awesome deeds, as all that HASHEM your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes? You have been shown, in order to know that HASHEM, He is God; there is none else besides Him...

[YetzerTov12]

@lionabbass Devarim 4, starting at the 32nd verse:

For ask now regarding the early days that were before you, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and from one end of the heavens to the other end of the heavens, whether there was anything like this great thing, or was the likes of it heard? Did ever a people hear God's voice speaking out of the midst of the fire as you have heard, and live?...

[YetzerTov12]

@lionabbass Well, let's be fair: Moses started not a religion after the burning bush, but the beginning of the removal of the Hebrews from amongst Egypt. This event culminated at Sinai, where 3,000,000 Hebrews heard G-d speaking. No other event in all of human history, and no other religion, ever claims such a thing. I will offer you one more message, where I will quote you something from Devarim, the fifth book of the Torah....

[lionabbass]

@YetzerTov12 And Moses went to a burning bush and came back with a religion! the religion is so different from talking to the wall of Jerusalem of today. In Madina, a crowd of jewish scholars became muslims. those stiff necked to reject it new that when they asked their tricky questions, revelation came to answer them leaving them shameful and condemned. go read up on Moses [as], a muslim by religion.