Salvation is the Work of MAN! - Charles Grandison Finney

Did you read that right? Think about that paraphrased quote for a second. It is in absolute contradiction to what the Bible says, "For God is my King of old, working salvation in the midst of the earth." (Psalms 74:12), "Salvation is of the LORD." (Jonah 2:9), and "It is God who works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure." (Php 2:13)

I'm not sure how more unbiblical one can be about salvation. Here, Mark Kielar explains some of Finney's methods and how they have affected modern "evangelism". One of Finney's sermons is even entitled, "Sinners Bound to Change Their Own Hearts".

You can read and listen to more about Finney and his questionable honesty here (be sure to read the article written by Phil Johnson):

http://lanechaplin.blogspot.com/2007/11/let-me-state-this-in-bold-so-it-is.html




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[simple475]

where is the reference of this quote of Charles Finney, LaneCH?

I would like to have a link to this actual quote by him.

I don't disagree this man was a heretic, but you have been exposed for outright lies once again, LaneCh.

[LaneCh]

And just what "lies" are you referring to?

[simplydannygirl]

One last thing. I know you are too dishonest to post any of my comments.

You won't speak out against the Church of Rome, you rather go on about "predestination, regeneration, and election." But most people are not theological students. How can they be saved. Finney used the Word of God and much Prayer.Finney was gentle and he did not waste his time arguing with the Baptist and Calvinist.He invited many place and worked tireously to win souls. Without love you are making noise. Who can be saved

[LaneCh]

"I know you are too dishonest to post any of my comments."

Yes, it seems that you appear to know a lot of things that are false. Please, continue to speak. It's certainly proving our case.

[JTTNMinistries]

That is a lie. We CAN know we are saved.

Romans 8:16

If the Holy Spirit is not testifying to your heart that you are saved then know this: You know not God.

Repent and believe the Gospel!

[tylerzackmcnell]

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[thirdimpact]

@ghostnoteus ...Or maybe genuine Christians wanted REAL converts and not false converts. As a former false convert, I shutter every time I see an alter call.

[fothgt]

@singingcowboy674 in response per your comments of Finney we should understand that Finney was dealing with a largely Christian audience. That was why they called the region he ministered in the "burned over" region. Full of Christian religion, but no real change of heart. His task was to "turn over the hardened religious heart." Is not that what John the Baptist did? Or at least tried to do? Finney's allies like Donald Dayton and Winkie Pratney saw the effectiveness of his ministry.

[fothgt]

I came from a ministry that had altar calls. It was bad. One summer my pastor had a tent revival. It was terrible. When the summer was over he went to church on a Sunday morning. One of the elders met him before he went in the church. He said pastor it's bad. Pastor said why? We have no where to sit, the building is packed. Terrible. Souls getting saved, healed, delivered and set free. We dont need that. Bible school 500 members. Forget it, give me 12 disciples and not 500, 1st Corinthians 15.

[ghostnoteus]

Of course the Calvinists are still incensed at Charles G. Finney... during the hyper-Calvinistic period he lived in, he was a serious threat to their theology.

[ghostnoteus]

I've read Charles Finney's sermons and stories of his revivals. If we throw a microscope over every single preacher and ministry I'm sure you'll find a lot worse than Finney. I find it strange that Kielar criticizes him so fiercely, but if Finney where to be alive and preaching in today's society, America would not be ready. Just read his writings and think for yourself. You have every right to doubt the claims of Kielar and have the heart of a Berean.

[Darth3456]

Calvinism, and Lutheranism are actually relatively modern compared to their origins.

The early church struggled against the father of all of these heresies. The early fathers condemned these doctrines and smashed their adherents with the scriptures.

The originator of Calvin and Luther is Marcion, who held the epistles of Paul above the words of Jesus, all of the OT, and the 12 apostles of Jesus. Mark Kielar is betting his soul on the epistles of Paul, the early church bet on only on Jesus.

[Fgsltw316]

John 6:53 Eat my flesh, drink my blood taken out of context makes Jesus a cannibal! Lying Reformests don't tell you that there IDOLS, yes IDOLS, Luther and Calvin hated God's "Chosen" people the Jews. Calvin said, "I have had much conversation with many Jews: I have never seen either a drop of piety or a grain of truth or ingenuousness—nay, I have never found common sense in any Jew." The Calvin Handbook page 146 These slandering hypocrites have such poor grounds that they have to tell lies!!

[singingcowboy674]

God will eventually draw ALL men, women, boys and girls who sit under the drippings of the gospel of Jesus Christ. But one cannot simply take it upon himself to respond to the gospel. It isn't something that you choose. It chooses you. There is appointed to man a time for him/her to come to the full knowledge and fellowship of the Lord Jesus Christ by His grace. We cannot repent truly until such a time. And if we rush it, we can be mislead for it is of no avail.

[singingcowboy674]

The whole premise of the idea Finney was in error of was the fact that most evangelists today make responding to the gospel a carnal decision to follow Christ and that it is most assuredly the your personal decision to follow Him that makes the difference.

The error is that you have to be DRAWN first. Not drawn of a preacher, but drawn of the Holy Spirit. It's that supernatural realization that you are a sinner. Not brought about by man, but of the Holy Spirit working in your heart.

[mysty0]

Lane., I wanna thank you for bringing this man to my attention. I may not agree with him 100% but even the points I do disagree with are trivial.., it is very rare for myself as an admitted critic of preachers to give a preacher this credit and I never would have known of him if not for you. Again., thank you!