Shin Megami Tensei II: YHVH

Fight with the JudeoChristian god. Gives a lot of XP.

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[pollosaurio777]

scuse me yhvh is for casuality yave from bible

[Luisfius]

@pollosaurio777 

[Luisfius]

@pollosaurio777 Pues si.

[JSHADOWM]

@Th3ba1r0n ALEPH, SATAN'S ESCAPED! GET 5 DEMONS WITH ATTITUDE!

... yes, you will now hate me forever.

[EXEGUNSO]

I really love how SMT games really make you question your morals and really immerse you into feeling how much your choices weigh. Not to mention they all have kick ass stories and great enemies.

[ZombieRyushu]

@DGneoseeker1 The fall of the holy temple in Jerusalem to the Babylonians and the Babylonian captivity were attributed to a lack of devotion to the war god YHWH. Kings after the Babylon captivity told that nothing was more important than fighting for YHWH.

[DGneoseeker1]

@ZombieRyushu Ah I see. Could be either, I suppose. Was there ever a reason given by YHWH for why the other gods were not to be worshipped?

[ZombieRyushu]

@DGneoseeker1 Thats something I disagree with 3vid3nce. He says that El was a superior to YHWH, Ba'al and the others, however, El is an adjective and not a Noun, like El Shaddai, Elohim, El Elyon. These were describing terms. My theroy is that the El had not been identified yet, or the writers were trying to say Abraham didn't KNOW the name of the Deity and just called him "El" (God)

[DGneoseeker1]

@ZombieRyushu Interesting. The trouble is so far I've not really found anything to show that El and YHWH are really the same deity. Though El is definitely meant to be Asherah's husband.

[ZombieRyushu]

@DGneoseeker1 There's another user named 3vid3nce that explains this stuff. He shows how the story changed over time. I may have parts if the story wrong. I don't think YHVH, Ba'al, or Asherah were ever real.

[ZombieRyushu]

@DGneoseeker1 It was a bit indirect. Ba'al YHWH outright killed. However, Asherah was made into a Human and permitted to live the rest of her life as a Human. HOWEVER.

One of the last Preists loyal to Asherah attempted to use an Asherah Pole (A symbol of Asherah's power) to regain her status as YHWH's wife. He got caught and was killed on the spot, (at least I think thats how the story goes). YHWH either ordered her Human incarnation hunted down and killed, or his priests did.

[DGneoseeker1]

@ZombieRyushu ...YHWH killed his own wife? So much for thou shalt not kill.

Is there by any chance a reference where I can find information about that? I know people who could do with reading about that.

[ZombieRyushu]

@DGneoseeker1 He had a wife named Asherah that he had killed and history erased her name. Also, Ba'al was of the same species as YHVH. The fact that we have a YHVH Elohim and not a Ba'al Elohim is because YHVH's followers could start a camp fire and Ba'al followers could not.

[DGneoseeker1]

@ZombieRyushu Interesting. It's not often someone admits that YHWH is not the only member of his "species". That is exactly how I interpreted the situation from the Bible. Usually I see Christians claiming that the YHWH worshipped by Christians is a different being to the YHWH from the old pantheon. A dubious claim at best.

[ZombieRyushu]

@DGneoseeker1 We call YHVH "God" now because of I think the third of the Ten commandments which makes it a sin to call YHWH by his real name. So often referring to YHWH, we here him called "Anodai" which is Hebrew for "Lord". (This is where "The Lord" comes from. El Elyon, El Ohim, and El Shaddai are adjectives describing WHAT YHWH is, YHWH describes WHO he is.

There were originally more members of YHWH's race running around, which is why these terms are used.