John MacArthur and Piper Teach Salvation By Works

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They say there is a point "beyond forgiveness" at which unbelievers are too sinful to be saved. So, when an unbeliever does get saved, it is partly because that unbeliever did not go past the point "beyond forgiveness".

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[upright41]

This analysis is incorrect. I have listened to many of John MacArthur's sermons on this subject and he does not advocate salvation by "working your way to heaven". He emphasizes that salvation is by grace though faith and that salvation is a gift of God.

[re033784]

This video is a huge unacademic critique of the people is analyzes. It's FULL of false assumptions.

[gore53]

@sargeanton2 Show me a person who needs to add to the finished work of the Cross and I'll show you a hell bound individual who has not submitted to God's righteousness which comes by faith in Christ alone.

[gore53]

@MrFennmeista "theres' not such thing as "effortless" christianity."

My yoke is easy and My burden is light.

Daughter, your faith has made you whole.

What must I do to be saved? Paul responded, "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ.

And this is the Father's will, that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life.

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life.

Lordship Salvation is a lie.

[MrFennmeista]

Faith... is an act of trust.

theres' not such thing as "effortless" christianity.

[oneidiotoo]

Who ever put this video together does not understand the Bible.

[jmanexpress]

this is dishonest and misguided repent now

[sargeanton2]

@MariusLio Wow -- are you misguided! "Except ye repent, ye will perish..." Jesus Christ.

Repent means turning from sin. That is ALSO a gift from God...not a human work.. And it happens at the moment of salvation by grace alone through faith alone. Show me an unrepentent person, and I'll show you a non-Christian.

[Tylrmclstr]

You are an ignorant man, whoever made this video... The Bible CLEARY talks about your heart being hardened if you reject the truth too many times. Not "too much sin", but willingly rejecting the knowledge of the truth you have received. You have to have the knowledge of the truth first though. STUDY YOUR BIBLE! YOU my friend, are leading people astray. Forget what Piper and MacArthur said... You just said the opposite of scripture.

[hipervan]

This is such a stupid analysis of what they are saying. The Bible says exactly what they are saying. And this British Loser is taking it out of context of what the Gospel is. No doubt it's in response to the fact that these men of God devote themselves to the truth of God's word, in it's entirety, to where they believe in the limited atonement of God's sacrifice for them that only the Holy spirit can redeem from a fallen state. This guy is a loser who thinks he's smart.

[lunabranwen]

the maker of this video is a troll trying to show how smart he is. I have heard many sermons of Mac Arthur saying many times that we are saved by grace through faith. just go to his web site and read his statement of faith. and you will see. piper Im not sure I dont know that much about him