Is Baptism necessary for salvation

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What I hear from TV preachers doesn't match what I read in the Bible when it comes to salvation. I never find a sinner's prayer, I always find water baptism being commanded of those who want to become Christians. This slide show examines baptism in light of Bible teachings.

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[weareabreedofdirt]

So, to continue, what kind of baptism did Peter mean if he didn't mean water baptism? That is answered in Acts 1:5 - For John baptized with water, but in a few days you will be baptized with the Holy Spirit.

[furny0101]

They were baptized with the Holy Spirit in Acts 2:1-4. But what baptism were they to administer? If it was Holy Spirit baptism then now does one baptize someone in the Holy Spirit? Also to read that into Acts 2:38 makes it read "repent and let each of you be baptized in the Holy Spirit for the remission of sins and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit". One is baptized by the Holy Spirit and then receives the gift of the Holy Spirit separately? That just doesn't make sense.

[weareabreedofdirt]

@furny0101

Okay, fair enough.

BUT. Notice, Johns baptism didn't save anybody, right? John himself stated that his baptism was only with water, and people who were baptized with Johns baptism were re-baptized with Christian baptism. So, put the two together. Johns baptism didn't save anybody, even though it was done "for the remission of sins." Therefore, statements like "for the remission of sins" don't indicate baptismal regeneration.

You're confusing the symbol for what it symbolizes.

[furny0101]

Trying to get a video up to deal with your points, for now consider. John's baptism was right for it's time to prepare the way for Jesus. It is as relevant to us as the Law of Moses. I don't teach baptismal regeneration. Water doesn't wash away sin. The blood of Jesus does. But when? At the point of faith-no Biblical support for this. Same with inviting Jesus into your heart. The Bible says it is when you are baptized into Christ (Gal 3:26-27, Rom 6:3-5). This is in water (Acts 10:47-48, 8:36)

[weareabreedofdirt]

This passage mentions nothing about faith, or even belief for that matter. Some would say, "he's using a part to describe the whole", but I don't think so, because people are asking him how to be saved, and this is what he gives them, so I think he is being precise. Therefore, this has to be talking about a different kind of baptism than water baptism. A baptism that includes belief, and faith. So, what kind of baptism is Peter talking about in this passage, I'll answer that in the next comment.

[furny0101]

Looks like some of my posts didn't post so I'll try again. You mention a baptism that includes belief and faith. That's water baptism (Gal 3:26-27, Mark 16:16).

[weareabreedofdirt]

@furny0101

It wasn't some intellectual decision that I made, I just felt compelled to do it. I all of a sudden hated my old sinful life, and all I really wanted to do from that point on was learn more about God. I then put my full trust in Jesus Christ alone, and it was at that point that the Holy Spirit filled me like I never felt before. Then yes, I did get baptized, but that was a decision I made, to be obedient to my Savior, and to publicly declare what Jesus had already done in me.

[weareabreedofdirt]

@furny0101

I wouldn't say we are saved at the point of faith, necessarily. We are saved when GOD regenerates US.

See, my salvation had nothing to do with anything that I did. I take absolutely no credit for it, but I give all the glory to God alone. Out of nowhere, I felt convicted of my sin. I hated the sin that I loved just yesterday. Then I felt lead by the Holy Spirit to fall on my knees and give it all to God. *continued*

[wilby1414]

@weareabreedofdirt

Romans 6 Apostle Paul explains the baptism process. But understanding why you need to be baptized for salvation helps.

Jesus said to follow Him in death burial and resurrection--HOW? When we are in the water we are buried with Him -- when we come out of the water we are made to drink the spirit and we are quickened and made alive by the Holy Ghost -- the gift from the Father.

We are born in DEATH and we MUST be converted unto LIFE to enter the Kingdom--born again!

[murrayoflight]

HalleluYah for Yesu Christ HalleluYah Yesu

[TrainmasterCurt]

If you reject baptism as necessary to salvation, then you indeed reject Jesus and are not in his Body! Read this article: prayerbook.ca/the-prayer-book-­online/64-articles-of-religion­-page-698#XXVII

[TrainmasterCurt]

This passage proves the Trinity and that Baptism is Necessary for salvation!

Matthew 28:18-20 (King James Version) 18And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.