Red Shirt Aftermath: Behind Paragon, Wat School and Clouds

I saw these women give the soldiers something to drink, and I also saw the people in that shantytown preparing to defend their homes against more possible red-shirt violence and arson.

So this pretty much debunks the myth that this is a rich vs poor conflict, or that people here resent the presence of the military in their city.

Quite the contrary. Most people are very relived to have the military ensuring safety and security. Even the urban poor were quite happy to have the soldiers protecting their homes too. At times like these, the basics of law and order are greatly appreciated by all. Mob rule, even in the name of a "good" cause, is not the way most people want to address problems in their society.

CNN really needs to stop calling itself a news agency, and the BBC isn't much better. Just because people label their movement "democratic" doesn't automatically make them the good guys or excuse everything they do. If CNN wants to be a REAL news agency, then they need to do more than repeat what people say as if it were fact, without actually checking the verasity of their claims first.

Oh, and by the way, putting on a flak jacket and helmet to make it look like you're reporting from a "war zone" doesn't make you look cool, CNN reporters. It makes you look like a DORK. Go fluff up your celebrity-"journalist" resumes someplace else, please. There are people whose livelihoods depend on the tourism here, and making it look like there's a war going on just so you dorks can put "war reporter" on your resume is irresponsible and hurtful. CNN probably did more damage to Thailand than all the red-shirts combined. Shame on you, CNN. Shame on you.

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[pudgimelon]

@fonzron I see you have difficulty grasping the concept of ANALOGY (which is NOT the same as comparison, btw)

No, I was not comparing elections, if that was the case, then Thailand would look A LOT more democratic :-P

A sovereign nation has the right to run elections as it pleases, and the refusal of UN observers does not imply guilt (as you seem to think). Rather, they may just wish to avoid the impression that they are a failed state, which would impact investment and consumer confidence

[fonzron]

@pudgimelon

You're the one who sounds ridiculous. Are you really going to compare the election process in America with Thailand? Please come down to planet reality for 5 minutes.

[pudgimelon]

@fonzron What you say makes NO SENSE. Let's use your logic on an American election so you can see how stupid it sounds: "If it's true that Republican officials in Florida intentionally discounted thousands of votes in order to throw the election to the governor's brother, then Obama must have nefarious intentions if he refuses to allow UN and EU observers to monitor the 2012 elections...."

See how DUMB that sounds?

[fonzron]

@pudgimelon

So again, to travel in circles here, if it's true that Thaksin bought all his votes, then why would Sondhi not allow out side monitors to observe the last election?

[pudgimelon]

@fonzron Actually, you mean that Thaksin BOUGHT himself some landslide victories and for some strange reason, those weren't allowed to stand. Does that absolve the Yellows from all wrongdoing? No. Of course not. But don't try to pretend like the Red leaders are the victims here.

I don't think either side can lay claim to the moral high ground. Like I said, pointing fingers doesn't SOLVE anything. You seem more concerned with laying blame on everybody-but-reds, rather than on solutions

[fonzron]

@pudgimelon

No seriously, what are you talking about? An hyperbole is meant to not be taken literally, I think you're the one who needs a dictionary. I literally mean that the people are not allowed to vote. It is fact that Thaksin and Thaksin supporters won more than 7 land slide victories, yet they are not allowed to govern. That is fact. And yes, that means that the people are not allowed to vote. This is not hyperbole, this is literal.

[pudgimelon]

@fonzron if you don't understand what i'm saying, get a dictionary or go to a dictionary website and look it up. it is not my job to educate you or improve your English.

Exaggeration, conspiracy theories, inflamatory statements, and wild accusations might make YOU feel better, but venting your bitterness and bile is NOT a productive way to discuss an issue.

There is plenty of blame to pass around and plenty of wrongdoing on BOTH sides. However, pointing fingers doesn't SOLVE anything

[fonzron]

@pudgimelon

What the hell are you talking about?

[pudgimelon]

@fonzron Not an accurate statement at all. Hyperbole doesn't prove your point and it isn't productive, either

[fonzron]

@pudgimelon

They've already not been listened to because their votes aren't allowed in their own country. We all have a right to vote, which means we all have a voice, however, in Thailand, we no longer have the right to vote.