ten23 Homeopathy Protest - Leicester 2010

A group of Leicester sceptics took part in the national 10:23 campaign against homeopathy (www.1023.org.uk), and swallowed whole bottles of Boots 30C homeopathic remedies to show that there is nothing in it - but sugar and lactose.

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Science & Technology

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• ten23
• homeopathy
• skeptics
• Boots
• Leicester
• UK

[cojanti]

The basic understanding here is wrong - homeopathy is supposed to work on the energetic level rather than the mechanical level. It's not an allopathic medicine.

It may well be ineffective, but you'll have to devise a better test to prove it. This video is a bit like trying to measure the speed of light with a microphone :-)

By all means educate so that people can make informed choices, but this kind of campaign seems to me a little like a witch hunt.

+ Boots probably just sold 10 years worth

[halffrog]

@cojanti We know were well how homeopaths claim it works - but talking "energetic level" and "not allopathic medicine" is just hogwash. It doesn't mean anything. Also, as said below: This demonstration is by no means a scientific study to show it doesn't work - there are plenty of those, and homeopathy is placebo effect at best. This campaign is admittedly a public stunt to show that there is nothing in homeopathy but sugar pills you can't "overdose" on.

[cojanti]

@halffrog Right now science does not have the tools to effectively evaluate homeopathy, So arguments for AND against hold only prejudice and conjecture.

Physics has made the leap from a Newtonian view of the world to a quantum view - biology and medicine need to do the same. Perhaps then we will have answers to some of the most challenging medical questions. And maybe a definative answer on homeopathy.

Until such a time, I will view stunts like this with suspicion.

[halffrog]

@cojanti Sorry, but your premise is a false one. Science can perfectly determine *how effective* homeopathy is, and it has shown time and again that it is not working, i.e. it is no more effective than a placebo.

This makes any musing about *how* homeopathy could work unnecessary. So no need to invoke quantum mechanics. And, by the way, many methods of modern medicine are already based on quantum mechanics (MRIs, for example). Homeopathy is simply a 100 year old fad, like blood letting.

[DrNancyMalik]

Real is scientific homeopathy. It cures even when Conventional Allopathic Medicine (CAM) fails. Evidence-based modern homeopathy is a nano-medicine bringing big results for everyone

[halffrog]

@DrNancyMalik I wondered how long it would take you to grace this post with one of your comments. There is nothing like "evidence-based modern homeopathy" - cite proper peer-reviewed studies that haven't been debunked over and over again if you think otherwise.

[insideofgod]

@halffrog Fair point, but to be honest I only really put that last comment up to score points with my Wife. She's well into all of this Hocus Pocus, I'm not saying I don't believe in it and I'm not saying that I do. Frankly I don't really care, My comment had the desired effect and I have scored brownie points :) Surely there must be something more worthwhile to campaign about??!! Let's face it nobody really gives a shit.

[halffrog]

@insideofgod You missed the point: It is safe to take it (at least the "highly diluted" remedies) because there is nothing in it but water and/or sugar. This is exactly the point the 10:23 campaign was making.

However, in reality it is not "safe" when people take this "nothing" for a condition that would actually require proper medicine.

[insideofgod]

Homeopathy may work, or it may not......What this video really illustrates is what a bunch of idiots you lot in the video are. If you knew anything about Homeopathy then you'd realise that one of Homeopathy's good points is that it's safe, hence you're actually demonstrating nothing.

[alien8ted]

@mohanaturo It's just fucking WATER you deluded dim-witted feeble-minded asshat!