Second American Revolution: Steve Schlissel (3 of 6)

Question:-- What about the "establishment of religion" clause in the U.S. Constitution? Doesn't the U.S. Constitution forbid the display of religion in the civil sphere?

Steve Schlissel: This idea of religious neutrality is not true to our founding. We had explicit statements in various state constitutions, Maryland, Delaware, Connecticut, Massachusetts, where there were references to the Christian religion as being the one that is protected in the land. In fact, there were restrictions of office bearing, that you could not be an office holder in a state unless you held to the Christian, and more specifically the Protestant religion, that you held to the Creeds in regard to the confession of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit, and that you believed that the Bible is the Word of God and infallible. If you didn't believe that, you couldn't be an office holder in various states.

Now we take today's propaganda to say that there was separation of church and state which means "religious neutrality." It's just a smoke screen. It is some rival, it is a "Klingon vessel using a cloaking device" that says, "I'm not really here." What we have is another religion. This other religion is viciously intolerant. How intolerant is it? Well, Reggie White, the great pro-football player, said to the Wisconsin legislature that he does not believe that homosexuality falls into the same category as race. He said, "Race is something you are born with. It is a disposition from God. You cannot choose it. However, homosexuality is a behavior that people choose to engage in." Well that was it for Reggie! This tolerant society, this "bleeding-heart let-everybody-do-their own thing" worldview found suddenly that their tolerance limits were met with a statement that suggested that homosexuality is a sin.

In Los Angeles recently, there was a convention of doctors meeting to discuss homosexuality. But because they didn't follow the "lavender agenda" the very discussion (although they didn't come to any conclusions) was condemned by the Los Angeles city council as "hateful." The people at the hotel were harassed. In fact, they had to shut down the hotel to these conventioneers and put them in another hotel that had a little more guts because of the threats that came from the homosexual community.

The homosexual community goes into St. Patrick's cathedral in New York City and tosses condoms. They mock fornicate every year in their wild lascivious parades in front and they are not touched. But Christians that protest at abortion clinics are arrested and hauled off. Tolerance always has limits. Tolerance is always religiously informed and we are not working in a tolerant system.

People who say anything against the current agenda find their life's work is now suddenly meaningless. There was a police chaplain in New York who was there for many years. He suggested that a homosexual district attorney was a problem to him. That was the end of his career. He was forced to resign. What happened to tolerance? Why can't he have a different view?

In the case of Matthew Shepherd's slaying in Wyoming, it was played up by the media to be a result of advertisements placed by Christians encouraging homosexuals to find freedom in Christ. These loving ads, they twisted into these intolerant bastions of hate. "They are looking to kill us all!" Nothing could be further from the truth. These people are gentle and meek and sweet. That is very clear to anybody with an impartial view of it. You don't even have to be a Christian to see their motives. What happened? The intolerance brigade came in and started their campaign against the Christian faith.

In the public square, there will always be one religion governing what is permissible and what is impermissible. If it is not the Christian religion, it won't be a religiously neutral government. It will be a government that is advocating another religion.

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[denalaurens]

I totally agree with this video. I'm a lesbian, but I am a sinner. It is not a 'special-interest group', per se that the Constitution protects, it is the basic rights of individuals and homosexuality is not something a person is born with. It is a vice, or preference. So I agree with Reggie, homosexuality and race do not go under the same category. But gays should not be discriminated against or their basic rights taken away either. God hates the sin but loves the sinner.

[jcr4runner]

Hmmm ... In you opinion is a non-practicing homosexual still a "gay person"?

[opinionhead444]

When I hear this Christian nation bruhaha, I imagine myself being Geneva in the 16th century. Furthermore, I hear secular nation, I imagine Stalin's gulags and pogroms.

The question is this, when is the date of your supposed theocratic initiation?

[jcr4runner]

Probably gradually over the next few thousand years -- as it has been since the beginning -- little by little.

I expect the PEOPLE to be reformed before the state can be reformed.

[Hiwnes]

Yes, a number of state governments had state religions and tests for office. When the constitution was written, the First Amendment applied only to the federal government. This all changed after the Civil war with the 14th amendment which made it illegal for states to take away a right the federal government provides. The Supreme Court didn't just "decide" to "take away" your religion. The law was expanded in scope!

[Blasphemer2]

ahhh, showing your true colors.

Looks like you DO agree with Gary North!!

Christian speak with forked tongue.

Everything you've professed to me is a lie.

Don't even bother responding to my comments...but as a "tolerant" christian you shouldn't censor them either.

[Blasphemer2]

1. God doesn't exist, so don't expect your surrogate daddy to love you. Just love yourself.

2 The evil secular gov't writes laws making is illegal to discriminate against you

3 The same EVIL secular govt writes laws forbidding HATE speech, whereas the LOVING christians partake in HATE speech, therefore they are less loving than the evil secular govt....go figure.

[denalaurens]

Depends on the reason why that person no longer 'practices' being homosexual. You see, race is something one cannot change. But sexual preferences change all the time. Let's consider why a homosexual doesn't 'practice' . It could be from an emotional turmoil from a break-up, guilt, fear, etc., but if that person still identifies as homosexual he/she would still be gay. A person can have gay sex one time and still not be gay. it's the preference. Is a non-practicing hetero still straight?

[joemaddock]

anyones BS detector going off!!?? please???

[Monorprise]

I think it's shocking when you look at the interpretations people uses for the Constitution today and then look at the interpretation in practices the people who wrote and ratified the same Constitution demonstrated. There are so many different examples of utter contradiction it's so disheartening I can't believe we actually have a Constitution anymore. Irony being they used the same common law rule meant too preserve this law, to rewrite the same law utilizing selective propagation of error.

[icantfindanamethis]

not christianity per see

more like belief itself

other than in money, pleasure, war, fear etc.

what a recipe for nihilism

[yomammadissu]

the thing is, people came to America ( not only ) for religious freedom. i'm not just saying this for Christianity, but for any religion. but the thing is, if the government is trying to take Christ out of everything and is practically forcing everyone to stop Christianity and not letting people be Christians, isn't that a complete defiance of the Constitution?