Making Hydrogen with pulsed output on an electrolyzer

This video is to show the difference between an electrolyzer hooked direct and being pulsed. When pulsed it does not overheat and it uses a lot less amps. More information at http://www.drinking-water.com

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Science & Technology

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• pulse
• generator
• PWM
• lawton
• stanley
• meyers

[hydrogenauto]

The funniest part of sharing these statements is the biggest reason we use a pulse generator is because the electrolyzer would overheat in a short period of time if we didn't have one. Getting more production of Hydrogen with less heat produced and less amp draw is just a plus. We also make no money doing this. It has cost me thousands of dollars working with colleges and other groups. Our videos are pretty basic, "here it is and this is what happens".

[daenumen]

that is from one of the fundamental chemical laws, "any reaction from one state to another, has the same energy change, regardless of route taken", however, you will loose energy during combustion, both of the fossil fuels to make the hydrogen and oxygen, and loose heat during combustion of the hydrogen and oxygen, ie two stages of losses, 3 with power lines and transformers ;).

[hydrogenauto]

@daenumen This would be true if it was hooked directly to the battery. Since we use a different designed electrolyzer and an amplified pulse we are able to make it cost effective but only when gas is above $2.50. With the amperage below 3 we are able to use two 50 watt solar panels which produce 3.3 Amps each. It takes a long time to produce enough hydrogen to run a 4 cylinder vehicle a short distance. And yes, there are much better ways.

[daenumen]

lmao, right...you realise this statement is rediculous dont you, your 'digital ammeter cant respond fast enough. if you actually calculate the live time, amperage input, you will realise it uses just the same power, but slower...

[hydrogenauto]

This is also a true statement in general, except we have some electrolyzers which produce hydrogen for up to 5 minutes after it has been pulsed. In otherwords it zaps the tubes with 18 volts then waits a minute before doing it again. The stainless steel or titanium remain energized for long periods of time depending on their size and how they are made. I encourage you to do the tests and write down your conclusions.

[magneticjem]

That's pretty cool, I built a slow pulse unit and cut my production in half but then I didn't major in electronics. Will these pulse generators I'm seeing you guys building take 15 or 20 amps ? if so I may have to take another crash course. thanks and great work. john

[hydrogenauto]

They actually will take just over that amount, but 12 guage wiring starts to melt and alternators burn out prematurely.

[daenumen]

@hydrogenauto regardless of being hooked to the battery directly or indirectly, you cannot 'create' energy with a pulse. the power dissipated by the circuit is the same. and as for the bubbles that continue to dissipate, some may just be stuck on the electrodes, and the others slightly dissolved in the water solution, hence this will also take time for it to escape.

[daenumen]

@hydrogenauto i agree that the plates stay charged, in order to keep them at their maximum charge, a small current must flow continually into the plates, if this is not done, the rate of production will decrease over the 5 minute period, since charge is stored on a surface. hence, when the plates are fully charged, the power is used equivalent to the rate of production, hence you only reduce the rate of production. do the maths, it doesnt hold energetically.

[daenumen]

please note, you will never actually gain energy using this method, since it takes the same amount of power to break water, into HHO as you get back from combining HHO into H2O, the only difference is that you loose heat making water!

[magneticjem]

Thanks for the info and the link,, much appreciated. john