A History of Britain (episode6/15, part1/6)

Burning Convictions - 15001558. Here Simon Schama charts the upheaval caused as a country renowned for its piety, whose king styled himself Defender of the Faith, turns into one of the most aggressive proponents of the new Protestant faith.

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[akamailman]

SImon Schama is a boss.

[active85858585]

sorry to be a right pedant here, but he's wrong at 06:53 - James II was in fact our last Catholic monarch - he's still a legend though :-)

[Multi0703]

@Wilbtube

As if pedophilia only happened at the Catholic Church; pedophilia is everywhere, including in the Protestant church.Saints are only peopple who defended the Christian faith and are honoured according to their good actions and deeds. Indeed my friend, Protestants killed Catholics and Catholics killed Protestants because of their own intolerance. What the world and especially Christians need is unity and dialogue. Christ would definitely appreciate it and so will both of us eventually.

[Wilbtube]

@Multi0703 The cult of saints contains some 'recycled' pagan deities. Within the RC clergy is a horrible ring of pedophiles. If these truths insult you, you are a better person than they are. I readily admit that I said "whore of Babylon". I take it back and ask you to forgive that. I was incensed by your words: "sects and heresies". That's what ticked me off, as those were the very words preceding the burning alive of hundreds of thousands of human beings.

[Multi0703]

@Wilbtube

Yo man:I am a man & also I have never never actually said that Catholics did not kill anyone in the past, but you renouce that Protestant did not force any Catholic to convert to their cults.I don't hate at all bro.Christ tells me to love all my enemies,and I just have pure and simple love for you and for those who are ignorant about the Catholic faith. Well, who started saying:the whore of Babylon, pagan cult,pedophile Pope?Was it me or what? Sad when people cannot admit wht they do

[Wilbtube]

@Multi0703 No, sister, I already said I abhor all mass-murders. The one who thusfar has renounced not even a single burning is YOU. You're projecting your own twisted double standard on me. I said your arguments are despicable - YOU are hating me as a person, not the other way around. YOU accuse me of being in League with Satan. I never accused you personally of the same. Rome, yes - but not you. Open dialogue? Haven't noticed any of it. Not in your words, not in the pope's.

[Multi0703]

@Wilbtube

See how much you twist things?I have never ever justified what a minority of Catholics did 500 years ago.On the other hand, you say that it was worth killing innocent Catholics just to establish Protestantism in Northern Europe.This is outrageous and unacceptable to me.This type of bloody hatred that you have against my person just for being Catholic must only come from Satan, since Christ encourages to love Protestants, Atheists, Muslims and Jews,and to be in open dialogue with them

[Wilbtube]

@Multi0703 "outragious form of brutality"? - Only to be outdone a thousand times by your creed I'm sure. So your justification for the burning alive of protestants is that "they hanged Catholics too"? Where in the Netherlands did that happen? And how does that make the Roman half-pagan cult the true version of Christianity? Your arguments are despicable.

[Multi0703]

@Wilbtube

hahahaha... There was never a Protestant Inquisition... you are joke man... ask this same question to an Irishman, someone from Salem USA, a Swiss Catholic from Geneva, French Canadian or even a Scottish Catholic and let's see what they answer.

- Stop denying History. The Protestant Inquistion was one of the most outrageous forms of brutality that this world has ever seen. I hate when Protestants do not follow what Christ teaches and say they "are true" Christians. VERY SAD INDEED

[Wilbtube]

@Multi0703 There never was a protestant inquisition. Least of all in the Netherlands. There never was a rule of sword in the Netherlands, which is what I talked about. I hate mass-murders, which is why I hate the burning alive of people, which is why I hate the RC Cult. As should every true Christian.

[Multi0703]

@Wilbtube

And who denies that the Pilgrimage was under Henry VIII?It is actually very outrageous to see a person like you glorified and JUSTIFYING the mass murder of Catholics in Europe for the sake of the Protestant Inquisition!Of their own free will?hahah! it was actually done according to the law of the sword,with no extra option.until 1825 and 1860,Catholicism was a forbidden faith in Britain and in Sweden.Catholicism is the true faith. Thankfully we're gonna reunite soon with the Orthodox

[Wilbtube]

@Multi0703 Pilgrimage of Grace was under Henry VIII. Again: get a clue. No Dutch Catholic was forced to abandon his faith; to the last century, about 1/3 of the Dutch were Catholics. The other 2/3 had adopted some form of Calvinism or Lutheranism - indeed: of their own free will! The whole mess in Germany was a result of cuius regio eius religio, which meant that protestants fled to the North while Catholics relocated to the South. (roughly.) The Roman Cult is a divisive, bloodthirsty blasphemy.