Robert E. Lee: "We are adrift in a sea of blood"

"I want this to be the final battle."

A clip from the epic movie Gettysburg, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107007/.
In my opinion the best civil war movie and one of the best war movies ever.

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[hartshornguy]

fucking thank you somebody posted the minstrel boy scene 5-5 stars for that alone

[Zappiss]

@hartshornguy Well you're welcome. But what's so important in that specific scene?

[hartshornguy]

@Zappiss

alot of catholic and irish brigade pride my friend

[Zappiss]

@hartshornguy Ah, well, glad I could help. :)

[dragchute86]

Not once did Lee call them "the enemy". He always referred to them as "those people".

[1oldgit]

Longstreet @1.04 mentions Chapultepec where he was badly wounded and where Pickett was first on the ramparts carrying regiment flag handed to him by Longstreet. Lee,Armistead,Hooker,Grant,Bea­uregard, McClellan and probably others were also there under Winfield Scott.

[TheRealChewbaccaBC]

Regardless of what side he fought for, Robert E. Lee was a true gentleman, and an amazing military commander.

[Beaviz81]

@Shafeone

I think reporters like to play up that part a little too much. Especially Americans. It's in the blood, starting with the friendship of Thomas Jefferson and John Adams.

[Shafeone]

@Beaviz81 Could be four...did it from memory. The point being that two bitter enemies can still respect each other after the shooting is over. Like in WW2 when USAAF ace Chuck Yeager and Luftwaffe Ace Gunther Rall became dear friends and did lectures together, etc.

[Beaviz81]

@Shafeone

Double that amount of time. I'm not a specialist, but the incidents can be unrelated. People have a nasty tendency to link famous deaths together. Most people live for themselves, but I suspect that's a part of America as the second and third president died within hours of each other on a July 4th.

[Shafeone]

@Beaviz81 It says a lot that JJ was a pall-bearer in Sherman's funeral. Supposedly out or respect JJ refused to don his hat even though it was a blistery wet and cold day. "If Sherman were in my place, he'd do the same." He died of pneumonia two weeks later or thereabouts. If true I think it is a telling illustration of the powers of reconciliation that mutual respect among former foes can foster.

[TigerRifle1]

@dragchute86 Lee referred to them as the enemy quite a lot actually. "The enemy is there and I'm going to strike them", "If we can defeat or drive the armies of the enemy from the field we shall have peace" Lee to Ewell about Stuart "I have instructed him to guard your flank and keep you appraised of the movements of the enemy." Whatever sentiments he may have felt for his former comrades they were in armed opposition to him, Lee was not naive.

[Shafeone]

@pvtvice You seem to confuse rumor with fact. The Confederates believed that there were 8,000 pair of shoes at Gettysburg. Heth in his own after battle report offered that his expedition on June 30 was to get shoes (that story was around before Foote was born). It doesn't mean the shoes were there. Rebs were in enemy territory with no recon. You seem obsessed with whether the shoes really were there. It doesn't matter. The Rebs thought they were there and that's what dictated their action.

[pvtvice]

@Shafeone Sorry, look it up. Shelby Foote said he just made it up. "Historians" borrow facts from each other all the time. Foote wrote it, Sears repeated it. Again, look up Adams County Business in 1863. There were no shoe mfg. shops. None. Made up "fact". I don't ever recall the conversations you cite in anything I've ever read about the battle.

[Beaviz81]

@Shafeone

Grant was more pragmatic than Lee. Many hail him as the first great modern general, and Lee as the last great general of the Napoleonic age.

JJ often put up positions which Sherman just avoided. JJ was so supreme as a defensive general so that a great general like Sherman didn't foolishly assault his defenses. Instead he concentrated on circumventing the defenses of JJ. Which he did. If I admonish JJ of anything, then it's his failure to use the cavalry.