God is fraud? 1/4 UCC debate (Peter Cave - humanist philosopher - for motion)

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Debate God is a fraud UCC Part1
Speaker: Peter Cave; chair of the British Humanist Philosophers Group and acclaimed author.
http://www.petercave.com/
http://www.humanism.org.uk/about/philosophers

See his books:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_ss_b_0_12?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&...

Pleasure principles:
http://newhumanist.org.uk/978

Can a Robot be Human?: 33 Perplexing Philosophy Puzzles:
http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=6332357

Humanism: A Beginner's Guide:
http://www.waterstones.com/waterstonesweb/displayProductDetails.do?sku=6289365

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  • @effee1000 beccause most of the world does and we happen to be living with them

  • Audio SUCKS. Can make out about, maybe 3 out of 5 words. BTW, why are atheists always arguing about something they maintain does not exist?

  • Hrrrmmmm... Not sure I can watch this because of the AWFUL sound.

  • A bit awkward to find the various parts. :(

    Also - Audio SUCKS. SURELY you can get an audio man in to help!?

  • Sound is very muffled. Hard to hear.

  • One of the problems with becoming an atheist, is that people expect you to talk about god all the time, as if its your biggest and most favorite subject. I dont know how other atheists feel, but its as if you become a weird non-god preacher. The subject of god now bores me to death. Seems crazy to talk of the qualitys of god, when we dont believe in its existence.

  • @joeevalt "to argue against gods existance is like speaking against the wind when you have no sense of feel" i'd say that if someone argue against the existance of wind, well wind is testable, we have technology to see which current the wind is, and that evidence can actually convince that person, but when it comes to god there's no even a shred of evidence. one might argue that god's a nothing but a product of the human mind

  • The one thing wrong with this is the inability of Peter to separate the idea of God from the multi-verse of religions that portray God in a multiplicity of ideas. It is very easy to portray something you don't understand in words you misinterpret from a half understood truth. To argue against Gods existence is like speaking against the wind when you have no sense of feel. To argue for God is like speaking to the deaf.

  • @ahmeedin I wont disagree on that one, it wasn't one of his best works. If you are praising Hamza, though, you might want to reconsider since he used the concept of perfection, not to mention used the proof that god proves his own existence, which doesn't work since as a concept he has to be proven by another means. Otherwise I could say a blue flying pig exists and say that he is the proof of himself without even showing you a blue flying pig.

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