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@cburton103 Riiiiiight, but how does that relate to the Priesthood and such? He sent his Apostles... Not... Well, those everyday Priests, or people like you and I.
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Jesus christ taught us to appoach the channel of grace of pardon in the sacrament of penance through his priest to whom he has given an authority to forgive and to retain sins this is to obeserve us of how we are obedient to his " will " and not to " our will ".
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@jfreakbol Well, if you're talking about the priesthood with regards to the forgiveness of sins, check out John 20:21-23
"Jesus said to them again, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I am sending you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven them; if you withhold forgiveness from any, it is withheld.'"
God sent Jesus to forgive sins. Jesus sent the apostles to do so as well.
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Its not that GOD is not "Powerful enough" that's just not how He set it up... Jesus is the mediator, The Perfect High Priest. As He was fully GOD and fully man.
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what about apostolic commission? and telling them whatever sins you forgive will be forgiven?
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Ugh, how does Jesus forgiving people's sins in the new testament suggest that He established a priesthood?
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@TheTemporalParadox Yeah that is sort of what I was thinking when I heard him make that remark. Good point.
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@Temporal paradoxGod is powerful. He is a spirit and never disrupts the course of nature of things in material world. He needs to intervene with matter to communicate with us.Logically speaking,If you think there's no need for a priesthood to have the power to forgive sins, and believe that you're just forgiven, It's the same thinking as when you pray and ask God for a bread, it will automatically come down to your plate like magic, but you know God doesn't work that way
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@TheTemporalParadox the first century church not only made you confess to a father but you had to publicly confess your sins so if we want to be as close to it was when jesus was around then shouldnt we follow what the first century church did.. what most of you protestants dont understand is most of your beliefs are new age beliefs not what the early church taught at all!
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The inverse of this could also be true.... Is it possible that God is powerful enough to NOT need a priesthood to communicate His forgiveness to His people or do you not think God is that powerful.
No? How did the 11 determine who would replace Judas? By casting lots-see Acts chapter 1 and compare this to how the priestly functions were determined in 1 Chronicles verse 27. The bible was not meant to be an instruction manual for new christian converts. Christ left us with a Church to determine the finer aspects of the faith. If it's not explicit in the bible, doesn't mean it's not Christian!
melegritof 1 year ago 12
@debeliste the priesthood of the Roman Catholic Church is the result of Christ giving authority to the apostles to continue his ministry in his name, they ordained other bishops who have ordained priests and this line has continued to this day, its hardly a half truth, basing belief on a book that was compiled by an institution you now reject, now that is hardly scriptural
Disciple328 11 months ago 10