anOther Story Of Progress

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"This movie is not like any other movie. It's an attempt to break with the story of civilization and to tell another very different story. One about a culture incompatible with nature."
- Felix Silvestris Catus

anOther Story Of Progress covers various issues, such as environmental destruction, indigenous resistance and insurrection - from a primitivist perspective. It also features primitivist thinkers such as John Zerzan and Layla AbdelRahim, as well as activists Vandana Shiva and Ana Maria Lozano from Justicia y Paz - to mention just some of the people appearing in the film.

Aside from footage shot with a home video-camera, material has been drawn from various documentaries to emphasise the thesis presented in the film: western civilization is a violent, destructive culture that has to be fought against.

web-site: http://thomastoivonen.org

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contact: thomas_toivonen[at]hotmail.com

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[Kevin Owen]

wow that was really awesome :D thought it was very interesting

[deadsociety0]

thanks :-)

[deadsociety0]

well i think that propagating for the destruction of this death culture is better than collecting stamps if that what you mean with having a hobby. on top of that i play guitar, bass, drums, keyboards, write books about jazz improvisation, make diy documentaries, (just to mention some of the stuff i'm involved in) i speak three languages (swedish, finnish and english) and i'm trying to learn spanish... do i sound like i need a hobby?

[RazClaw]

Ran out of letters, just wanted to say keep doing what you're doing, the film is very well put together in my opinion. All the best to you!

[Twiggierjet]

Well, then we will just have to see. I personally vouch for singularity.

[deadsociety0]

the future will tell whether it's stoppable or not. but i will continue to do what i can to stop a development that (from my point of view ) is completely insane. if you have a disease that is threatening to kill you wouldn't you try to stop it? i view this development the same way. just take a honest look on how this world is doing and you'll know what i mean. i see three possible scenarios of the future: technological singularity, collapse or going back to a natural lifestyle.

[Twiggierjet]

Constructed or not, I don't think that you can stop it at this point . Have you ever heard of the law of accelerating returns?

[deadsociety0]

but they are constructed needs. i didn't need the internet 20 years ago. i didn't even needed a mobile phone. when my mother was a kid in finnish lapland they didn't have a tv. they used horse and wagon most of the time. and this was in the early 50's. and for medicine, i'm not going to list all the diseases that came with agriculture but it's pretty long. also the knowledge about medicinal plants and so on that existed for thousands of years. so what good has actually come with progress?

[Twiggierjet]

I think that some people are just naturally curious like that, regardless of how natural their life is. As for not being able to use knowledge in our everyday life, they said the same thing about electricity, most medicine, the internet, etc. I don't know about you, but I use those things pretty commonly.

[deadsociety0]

the need to penetrate deeper and deeper into things are signs of distress that comes from the alienation of not living in conditions natural to us. at least that's they way i see it. just look at how people are doing in general in our current society. what are we going to do with knowledge that we can't use in our everyday life? what's the point?

[Twiggierjet]

You are correct about the privilege, at least in our current society, but is a scientific approach really all that bad? And how exactly is it a result of alienation? Knowing what plants are safe to eat is an example of knowledge that would be available in a hunter-gatherer society but what about knowing WHY that plant is not safe to eat? Is that not something worth knowing?

[deadsociety0]

yes, curiosity is innate to the human being but this kind of scientific approcach is a result of alienation. and also privilege. how many scientists do you find in a hunter-gatherering band-society? but you do find people that have a lot of knowledge of their surrounding, what plants you can eat etc. that kind of knowledge and experience is a result of exploration. and sure you can dream about space but if you dont have slaves mining for metals and building the spacecraft, then it's just dreams.