Motion of the Sun, Where is it supposed to rise/set?

short informational video about where the sun rises and sets, the changes in earth's wobble and axis, the sunrise early in Greenland and some resources. Love you all, and I hope you walk in Joy each day.

links:
http://astro.unl.edu/naap/motion3/animations/sunmotions.swf

http://www.livescience.com/855-weather-earth-wobble.html

http://www.alaskanewspapers.com/article.php?article=1103false_sunrise_whets_e...

http://solarrose.us/

http://www.eaae-astronomy.org/WG3-SS/WorkShops/Sunset.html

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• sun
• solar
• earth
• axis
• sunrise
• sunset
• angles
• pole shift
• greenland
• changes
• weather
• earthquakes

[ajalmostheaven]

@JoBarwo , there are wobbles all the time, short term and some cyclical, such as the 433-day Chandler wobble and the annual wobble, which together can tilt the Earth's axis up to 30 feet from its nominal center. but I was trying to find common ground between accessibility and technical data. I think an explanation is atmospheric changes. i wasn't presenting the wobbles we have as the reason for ppl seeing it off, just that a larger wobble could, but as you say everyone who observes would know.

[ajalmostheaven]

this isn't a 'debunking' video, this is for your information on how the earth/sun relationship works and has been working for at least the last few hundred years... You have to know whats normal to see what isn't normal...and things are starting to be abnormal. it, so far is in very small changes, but i fully expect this pace to pick up.

[ajalmostheaven]

@unvinyl34 I'm sure there is, the moon is way more complicated then the sun and I agree its been unusual , there are models online, I have much less experience with the moon so i dont think i'd be good an trying to explain where it should be and how it should look, but there are vids on YT that cover this topic

[ajalmostheaven]

@theGrowingawareness part is the lack of reports from all the communities that celebrate the first sun rise and therefore are very mindful of its arrival, and part is from scientists, such as the ones in your recent video that live and work in the arctic circle and have daily and weekly updates, with none mentioning what would be a huge phenomena, i didnt save the links ill search em out again tomarrow, share and show as you wish. the axis is shifting its just not creating huge change yet.

[JoBarwo]

@ajalmostheaven You keep saying "annual wobble". WHAT "Annual wobble"? Chandler in NO WAY relates to what people THINK they are seeing. Your implication that small shifts in the axis from Chandler of 30 feet or so would project into larger angles in the sky is just false. I already mentioned this, but you seem to have ignored it. There ARE no "larger wobbles" occurring. I think you are misleading people more than you realise by talking about Earth's "wobbles".

[JoBarwo]

4) 4) A 'wobble' of 30 feet does NOT create a large angle in the sky. That amount of axis shift cannot even be detected by most telescopes. In no way could it be seen by eye.

The sun is not out of place by even a little bit. If it was, every astronomer on the planet would know about it within hours. People are getting hysterical over nothing.

Thanks for you vid, but it contains a lot of inaccuracy and incomplete information.

[JoBarwo]

1)The apparent rise of the sun early in the arctic is called the "Novaya Zemlya effect" and has been known for a couple of centuries or more with the early arctic explorers.

2) People are not saying that things in the sky are "slightly off". They are saying that they are off enough to see from MEMORY from previous years. It's ridiculous and false.

3) There is no "yearly wobble" in Earth's axis. I have no idea where you got that.

[unvinyl34]

anything like this on the movement of the moon?

a couple of times this year it's risen in the northwest totally at random and waxing from bottom to top instead of left to right.

[TheGrowingAwareness]

I do have one question though. What source do you have that said that the sun did not rise early in Russia, and Norway, Alaska, and Canada?

[TheGrowingAwareness]

Going to mirror this ... let me know if you want me to take it down.