@91Roundhouse Loving their chains is very evident in China, and Japan even, and in modern Europe today sadly, but the Celts, from the Bronze Age Gaul to the Medieval Scot despised them, and to this day, in various ways, attempts to rid themselves of their chains, it's the spirit of the culture, and a spirit I feel will ultimately save us all.
@dagnab1 There are only two races (by phenotype/genotype/haplogroup etc.) native to Europe; Pre-Indo-Europeans and Indo-Europeans. There has also been some admixture with Semites and Turkic peoples (in Italy and Greece respectively). i.e Jew-fro hair is Semitic.
Celts are a linguistic group, racially they are Pre-Indo-European as are most of the native populations around the Med Sea. When the Indo-Europeans came from central Asia their physical presence stopped at about the Rhine river and Danube, but their culture and languages were spread to the rest of Europe and emulated by those populations.
Although Indo-Europeans had also infiltrated Greece and Rome and responsible for those successes.
@scorpios814 what of brutus? some welsh historians trace the beginnings of 'civilised' brits back to brutus and the trojians - infact through genetics they can trace their migration from the mediterainean via canaries etc through to wales etc - may explain the 'darkness' of the welsh - yes the greeks are wonderful mix of indian and nordic cultures of the past - even all their gods are alike and this was 19th century germany's obsession with india - all very interesting stuff kelto-then any tribe
@dagnab1 I don't doubt you mate - but you must understand the term celtic is misleading - doesn't mean your family history is any different - just means it ought not to be labelled celtic - search the origin of the term and ye shall find! by the way 'race' is human concept - genetics and science invalidate the very concept of race - what you refer to is rb1b - the basque genes - which are quite correctly the oldest in europe - your obsession with race is rather worrying - from a blue eyed blond!
@rugbyboy198127 NOT true at all yes we are most definitly a racial group,My fathers name is from Gaul and my mothers name is over 1700 years old in irish gaelic these 2 families combined becouse of the roman destrucion of the Celts ,Scythian,iberian,gaul are celts germans are not the anglos are another germanic tribe from friesland do the history .We are getting sick of hearing that we are not a race it is Provabel through many sources of genetics we are basicly the oldest white,WE are a RACE
interesting detail coming from the Greek mythology:CELTOS (as well as GALATIS~=Gaul,Gaulois) was the son of HERCULES.also,the old oak of the druids was the sacred tree of ZEUS.not to mention,one of APOLLON s adjectives was hyperborean.Europe is a greek name,after all.
yes i agree with everything except this use of the term celtic, it is unfair to group all these wonderfully vibrant and different cultures of the people of europe into one group in this way, celtic is a broad cultural definition, including a number of different cultures and populations groups ie: not a 'race' not one ethnicity,it has no particular reverence in the uk or ireland, it basically means those people not roman or greek living in europe at that time(germans,scythians,iberians,gauls etc)
They shun difference and non-conformity. Any ideas other than that which is widely and officially accepted are "conspiracy theories by nutjobs" or "weirdos". I can only hope that people want to be free, only some seem to resent not being themselves, but rather the product of social engineering. There is absolutely an order and the majority accept it and defend it.
"We are living in a very cynical age" - Miranda Otto
@91Roundhouse Loving their chains is very evident in China, and Japan even, and in modern Europe today sadly, but the Celts, from the Bronze Age Gaul to the Medieval Scot despised them, and to this day, in various ways, attempts to rid themselves of their chains, it's the spirit of the culture, and a spirit I feel will ultimately save us all.
mothman64 1 month ago
@dagnab1 There are only two races (by phenotype/genotype/haplogroup etc.) native to Europe; Pre-Indo-Europeans and Indo-Europeans. There has also been some admixture with Semites and Turkic peoples (in Italy and Greece respectively). i.e Jew-fro hair is Semitic.
Celts are Pre-Indo-European.
ancestoralmemory 5 months ago
Celts are a linguistic group, racially they are Pre-Indo-European as are most of the native populations around the Med Sea. When the Indo-Europeans came from central Asia their physical presence stopped at about the Rhine river and Danube, but their culture and languages were spread to the rest of Europe and emulated by those populations.
Although Indo-Europeans had also infiltrated Greece and Rome and responsible for those successes.
ancestoralmemory 5 months ago
@scorpios814 what of brutus? some welsh historians trace the beginnings of 'civilised' brits back to brutus and the trojians - infact through genetics they can trace their migration from the mediterainean via canaries etc through to wales etc - may explain the 'darkness' of the welsh - yes the greeks are wonderful mix of indian and nordic cultures of the past - even all their gods are alike and this was 19th century germany's obsession with india - all very interesting stuff kelto-then any tribe
rugbyboy198127 6 months ago
@dagnab1 I don't doubt you mate - but you must understand the term celtic is misleading - doesn't mean your family history is any different - just means it ought not to be labelled celtic - search the origin of the term and ye shall find! by the way 'race' is human concept - genetics and science invalidate the very concept of race - what you refer to is rb1b - the basque genes - which are quite correctly the oldest in europe - your obsession with race is rather worrying - from a blue eyed blond!
rugbyboy198127 6 months ago
@rugbyboy198127 NOT true at all yes we are most definitly a racial group,My fathers name is from Gaul and my mothers name is over 1700 years old in irish gaelic these 2 families combined becouse of the roman destrucion of the Celts ,Scythian,iberian,gaul are celts germans are not the anglos are another germanic tribe from friesland do the history .We are getting sick of hearing that we are not a race it is Provabel through many sources of genetics we are basicly the oldest white,WE are a RACE
dagnab1 6 months ago
interesting detail coming from the Greek mythology:CELTOS (as well as GALATIS~=Gaul,Gaulois) was the son of HERCULES.also,the old oak of the druids was the sacred tree of ZEUS.not to mention,one of APOLLON s adjectives was hyperborean.Europe is a greek name,after all.
scorpios814 10 months ago
Robert O'Driscoll wrote a book in 1994 called "New World Order: Corruption in Canada"
And he of course was fired shortly after for "anti-semitism"
HarryPotler 1 year ago
yes i agree with everything except this use of the term celtic, it is unfair to group all these wonderfully vibrant and different cultures of the people of europe into one group in this way, celtic is a broad cultural definition, including a number of different cultures and populations groups ie: not a 'race' not one ethnicity,it has no particular reverence in the uk or ireland, it basically means those people not roman or greek living in europe at that time(germans,scythians,iberians,gauls etc)
rugbyboy198127 1 year ago
They shun difference and non-conformity. Any ideas other than that which is widely and officially accepted are "conspiracy theories by nutjobs" or "weirdos". I can only hope that people want to be free, only some seem to resent not being themselves, but rather the product of social engineering. There is absolutely an order and the majority accept it and defend it.
"We are living in a very cynical age" - Miranda Otto
91Roundhouse 1 year ago