Kill or Be Killed

Official training film of the US.Army about close combat(2nd World War)

Category:

Education

Tags:

• Applegate
• Combatives

[almostconcerned]

@decimated550 Everything is situational. If the enemy is actively resisting, even if wounded, like a Japanese soldier playing dead and holding a grenade to his chest, then a soldier is justified in doing him in. If he is not resisting and is trying to surrender, then a soldier needs to exercise restraint. It's a lot to ask of somebody who was just being shot at and and may have buddies killed to follow the rules so closely though. I'd err on the side of trusting the judgment of the troops.

[Bossafro]

modern army combatives is bullshit.

[Ascenscion123]

@amyhuk Muslims are name for peopl who are of Islamic Religion.Rules of Engagment are the rules of engaging an enemy.Terrorists are the enemy.The most common rule of engagment is don't shoot unless shot upon.In the middle east civilians and terrorist wear the same clothing,some civilians carry AK47s it dosen't give US troops the right to kill them.If they start shooting they are a combatant.Taliban attack high in the mountains and hide they dont closely approach us because theyre cowards

[amyhuk]

@Ascenscion123 so you see muslims preparing an attack on a squad of un suspecting royal marines and you cant shoot at them because they didnt shoot at YOU first? sounds like the "rules of engagement" were written by a muslim to me

[Ascenscion123]

@Bossafro The only way you would have good self-defense skills if you become an instrcutor.The army is large cant make every one a good or decent military martial artist.MACP is ok for a basic level but Marines want Infantrymen green belt which is typically intermediate.MCMAP is also in marines PT.The vietnamese were black belt ma's our army was outnumbered and had to use hand to hand combat alot as a last resort but vietnamese were seldom to fight marines

[Ascenscion123]

@amyhuk What you said was the stupidest I ever heard.Thier called ROE Rules of Engagment dont shoot unless shot upon

[Ascenscion123]

@Bossafro Somewhat yeah(MACP is excellent in ground fighting) because it is not mainly focused on soldiers.MCMAP is mandatory for marines an they want to make sure they are mrtial artists,the belt system shows thier discipline and shows that MA is a key point in war and makes a key point in a marine.I wish MCMAP was expanded to all branches.MACP as far as tactical scenarion yes,hand to hand no,ground fighting yes.

[amyhuk]

@bargunner18 nowadays the soldiers need to get permission FROM THE ENEMY before they are allowed to shoot at them. i think it has somthing to do with the fact we have a muslim in the white house but im not sure