Since I got such good reactions from the video of Tommy Wonder I uploaded, I am also uploading some video's of another magician the dutch should be proud of; Fred Kaps
Here is a video of him together with Bro John Hamman
@Acardician The effect was done beautifuly but i feel the plot is weak, it seems to contradict itself, its a magical effect with a prediction patter, realy its a card to impossible location but i feel that in any card to impossible location the location it ends up in must have some importance, when would anyone ever need to get a card into a small box, it amazing and impossible but not useful in anyway, not saying their are no solutions for this effect i just think the plot is weak.
Briefly, I believe that "methods" are nothing more then final solutions to problems. Problems are gaps in between the ideal magic situation (es: "signed card in the box, before being selected and signed") and what happens in the internal reality of the magician. The problems can be grappled at first by identifying them; then by studying/conveying our character, our pacing, rhythm, our persona,etc.; and finally, identifying scripts,presentation and the most pertinent techniques
@Acardician How would you like the discussion to develop then? Discussing the art of the routining without directly referring to methods. Or maybe looking at alternative concepts, or just praising how good Kaps was without getting technical at all.
As I see it, many young student magicians come to You Tube and we owe it to them to break down the effects to give them an idea what is involved should they decide to study the effect in question,
@xRNEx I know how it's done - see my other post, it explains it for you. There is a dupe card already folded and glued inside the box and he pretends to dump it out onto the palmed folded card, closing the box at the same time.
@mikekennedy1000 Yes correct, he already has the card folded and palmed in his left hand, and a dupe card folded and stuck in the box. He pretends to dump out the card in the box and he closes the box at the same time. Bit like a shuttle pass.
@Acardician Yeah this is easy. He gets it to the top using a pass. 2:28 to 2:32 you can see him fiddling around folding it up. 2:34 he holds it folded up behind the deck. 2:42 he palms it in his left hand. Then there is a card already folded up in the box & he pretends to dump it out in his left hand, revealing the folded card, but he closes the box at the same time hiding the other card. That's why he didn't want the spec taking the card out of the box & he moved it away from him. Lame trick!
@Acardician The effect was done beautifuly but i feel the plot is weak, it seems to contradict itself, its a magical effect with a prediction patter, realy its a card to impossible location but i feel that in any card to impossible location the location it ends up in must have some importance, when would anyone ever need to get a card into a small box, it amazing and impossible but not useful in anyway, not saying their are no solutions for this effect i just think the plot is weak.
TheBradTobin 7 months ago
@CaraBrimleyRules
Briefly, I believe that "methods" are nothing more then final solutions to problems. Problems are gaps in between the ideal magic situation (es: "signed card in the box, before being selected and signed") and what happens in the internal reality of the magician. The problems can be grappled at first by identifying them; then by studying/conveying our character, our pacing, rhythm, our persona,etc.; and finally, identifying scripts,presentation and the most pertinent techniques
Acardician 7 months ago
@Acardician How would you like the discussion to develop then? Discussing the art of the routining without directly referring to methods. Or maybe looking at alternative concepts, or just praising how good Kaps was without getting technical at all.
As I see it, many young student magicians come to You Tube and we owe it to them to break down the effects to give them an idea what is involved should they decide to study the effect in question,
CaraBrimleyRules 7 months ago
@CaraBrimleyRules
I know very well how it "works"...this version and at least 10 others.
I still believe that "very few performers are able to repeat the effect along with Kaps' timing and construction".
Looking at the last posts, I also believe that the discussion isn't following what I consider to be the magical paths and streams of reflection.
Acardician 7 months ago
@spiritmeeting The box isn't gimmicked especially. It's a normal ring box with a card folded into 4 and glued inside.
CaraBrimleyRules 7 months ago
@xRNEx I know how it's done - see my other post, it explains it for you. There is a dupe card already folded and glued inside the box and he pretends to dump it out onto the palmed folded card, closing the box at the same time.
CaraBrimleyRules 7 months ago
@mikekennedy1000 Yes correct, he already has the card folded and palmed in his left hand, and a dupe card folded and stuck in the box. He pretends to dump out the card in the box and he closes the box at the same time. Bit like a shuttle pass.
CaraBrimleyRules 7 months ago
@Acardician Yeah this is easy. He gets it to the top using a pass. 2:28 to 2:32 you can see him fiddling around folding it up. 2:34 he holds it folded up behind the deck. 2:42 he palms it in his left hand. Then there is a card already folded up in the box & he pretends to dump it out in his left hand, revealing the folded card, but he closes the box at the same time hiding the other card. That's why he didn't want the spec taking the card out of the box & he moved it away from him. Lame trick!
CaraBrimleyRules 7 months ago
@davidstewartmagic No, the box is not accessed from the bottom!
mikekennedy1000 1 year ago
That gabby interrupting guy is at every one of my shows.
monkey505boy 1 year ago