Prop 8 FACTS: France's Important Same-sex Decision
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As religion, mariage is "out" in France, where the majority of children born outside mariage. For legal reasons (taxes, heritage, etc) you'd better get married, but that was consider unfair. From the late 1990's, you can have a "PACS" (kind of mariage, but without the decorum). Largely use by heretosexual, it can also be use by gays. Remember that the French Revolution was the first to consider gay rights (1789).
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So Homophobic :P
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do you want people to get the facts straight, or vote yes on prop h8?
if they got their facts straight they would know that voting for prop h8 is to vote to make america a communist nation
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Hmm funny that they did not mention anything from their research about the countries who allowed same sex marriage. Cause I live in Canada and since 2005 same sex marriage has been legal in our country and guess what our children are doing just FINE!!!
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Wow France must have a lot of test and conduct research before they hand out a marriage certificate to make sure you're fit to be a responsible parent since the rights of the child are apparently so important.
Just kidding, they singled out fags because the committee is homophobes that dont want to think about two dicks going at it. That' cool, it happens a lot.
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@RaychSeldon33 Once again it looks a lot like what happens in the US : in France, when you have southern accent, people think you're dumb. Just because of the sound of your voice. In France, people don't tolerate "racial jokes" anymore... unless the joke is about a south farmer. It came to a point where a lot of comedians use southern french accent as a cheap trick to "dumb down" the character they play. So yes, I think I can understand that you're fed up...
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@vicorii Well, on the other hand there was a lot of french bashing in US during the last decade, and it had nothing to do with liberals. That was when french governement didn't want to go to war on the WMD thingy. Then all right wing media started to insult France...
But believe me or not, I still understand what you say about "rural America" being mocked by "elits". As a matter of fact, I did grow up in the countryside, southern France, and we are often mocked that way by Paris' "intellectuels
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@RaychSeldon33 The point is that there are people in America who have taken to using "the French" as a symbol.
Just as people in places with strong humanist values have taken to using rural Americans as symbols for "the other side" ("Enlightened" humanism vs. ignorant, backwards superstition, is generally how the symbolic imagery plays out)
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@vicorii Well.., i am french and I don't feel "culturaly or moraly superior" to any other nationality. I'm not THAT stupid... French are just like everybody in the rest of the world : we do some things right, and some other things wrong. No more... but no less. That's why there is no such a thing like "the french" who would acknowledge something all together. Some french are defending gay mariage, some others don't want to hear about it. It's a lot like USA for that matter... :)
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@RaychSeldon33 Liberals frequently use the French as a sort of standard by which we should all live (which is why those of us who don't want a state similar to the French one really get sick of hearing about the supposed cultural and moral superiority of the French).
The French are frequently cited as "proof" on all issues re: gay tolerance.
So if the French are really acknowledging the existence of a conflict between child's welfare & gay rights, that IS news.
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It's kind of funny. These right wing nut jobs usually hate the french, now all of a sudden they're embracing them.
Even if you buy all of this bullshit, they're missing a key point. They act as if by approving gay marriage, they would be "creating" something new. Gay people already form relationships and have children. Banning gay marriage doesn't change that. It just leaves those families without legal protections that are desperately needed.
peepers60 2 years ago 10
K10star doesn't seem to realize the implications of his interpretation of France's decision. Per his interpretation, heterosexual couples who plan to have children are just as "bad" as any gay couples or single parents. From what he has stated in his video, it seems France was more committed towards supporting children whose conception was unexpected. Of course, France deeply supports the civil rights of all humans, especially gays and their families.
CyborgNinja7 2 years ago 2