Shinya Aoki vs Joao Batista

JAPAN OPEN JIU-JITSU CHAMPIONSHIP 2004

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[LittleJ2008]

@RodrigoCabanillas you're also right about the difficulty of promotion to higher "dan" ranks. ni dan, san dan..... ni dan's I guess are the ones competing in the worlds, Kano cup, Olympics, etc. San dan you are eligible to start teaching. Once you get to red & white belt, you've done it all & teach the teachers. After thatx promotions are based more the sensei's impact on and within Judo. I wish I would have trained Judo while I was there but instead opted for BJJ. Didn't have time do both.

[LittleJ2008]

@RodrigoCabanillas I concurr. I was stationed in Okinawa Japan for 3 years. A lot of my Japanese co workers were sho dan bb's and thought it was funny American's (mine included) infatuatoin with obtaining black belt. The way they described it is 1st degree bb is high school level and pretty much means you know all kodokan throwing techniques and how to execute them properly and can do so in competition. Being that you now know the techniques, you can START learning Judo.

[RodrigoCabanillas]

@pcjudosambo

Sho Dan = First step, basically an initiate, someone who doesnt needs to be babystep during practice but a beginner nonetheless.

People think that the blackbelt is the end, but in reality it has only been the beginning since day one, so sure a Kodokan blackbelt may be easier than the states, but try getting a 6th dan in the Kodokan and then talk.

The reason its "easy" its because it was never meant to be hard, its basically a you passed the introduction course rank.

[rainriders]

(Japanese) kodokan.org/j_basic/shoudan_j.­html

And there're many 2nd degree high school black belts in Japan. No shit.

[pcjudosambo]

@rainriders Not that I am saying you're wrong but honestly for Kodokan to have such "low" standards .. I find it hard to believe... once again I am NOT discrediting you but if you can provide some sources or references, I'd appreciate it.

[rainriders]

@pcjudosambo Yes, I know it's much harder to get promoted in the States. That's what everybody tells me. Kodokan requires only 3 points (that means you've beat 3 opponents of the same rank) for shodan. However, some elite schools and Police Academy keep the higher standards and they make you work harder for the belt.

[pcjudosambo]

@rainriders In order to get a bb in Judo from USA Judo Inc, you must be minimum of 16 and earn 24 points via competitions. Each tournament 1st place is an average of 1-2 points (if you compete against your rank)... so that's approximately 12-24 competitions you must win. I think Japan has stricter policies.

[rainriders]

@pcjudosambo The minimum age to become a bb in Judo is 14 years old. So if you start at the age of 6, it should take you at least 8 years to get promoted to shodan. If your friend started Judo at 16 and he got bb at 24, I say that's a very rare case. My High School had one of the most competitive Judo teams in the nation and I don't know anybody who did not get bb before graduation.

[pcjudosambo]

@rainriders I personally know a few Japanese Judo black belts that would be shocked by your #'s. One of the black belts (shodan) told me that it took him 8 years to get a black belt in Judo from Kodokan and that's practicing 2-3 hours a day for 5 days a week for 8 years. He won Kano Cup and All Japan so he's no slouch...

[rainriders]

@pcjudosambo Rule of thumb: 100 Hrs of practice = Black Belt  There's a "LOT" of 2nd degree bb in Japanese High Schools.