Ben Stein: what the hell? srsly

Why did Ben Stein throw all his gravitas after a neo-creationist cause, using dishonesty like second nature.

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• stein
• betrayal
• expelled
• intelligent
• design
• creationism

[BigMcRuler]

dude, aren't you the same guy who defended his dishonesty from thundef00t? now you just come across as populous. you should become a politician(not a compliment).

[UbuntuMacDupe]

populous? I think you meant "populist", although since you're accusing me me of being "two different people", I guess "populous" (i.e. having many people) works too! ROFL!!!

I think *that* specific part that I defended was not unethical, because I think the people who refuse to speak to the other side, are the ones in the wrong, and lying to get them to engage you is justifiable. But my object was just to its characterization as "academic dishonesty" -- *viewers* aren't thence lied to there!

[prschuster]

"His attack is on the lack of freedom that is given to scientist..."

Ben Stein's argument about academic freedom is a ruse because the real agenda of the Intelligent Design movement is to pass ID off as a valid scientific theory when it has no supporting evidence and proposes no realistic way to test for design in living systems. The issue is about teaching pseudoscience - not about asking questions. ID is neocreationism at the molecular level, being passed off as a theory in science.

[alienamnesiac]

Man, you said it. What a disappointment Ben Stein turned out to be. A lovable character actor and someone who I enjoyed seeing as I was growing up, and oops, turns out he's a flaming idiot!

Oh well! He's a casualty we'll just have to leave behind.

[MrBaryar]

The entire point of Expelled is that if you speak of Creationism in any way except "lol it's total bullshit", you are BLACKLISTED. Which is proven by how people are looking at Ben now. The sad thing is I bet a lot of you hating on Ben don't fully understand the Theory/Fact of Evolution, you've only a half-baked generalization of it. There are viable questions about it that uneducated people just CAN'T ANSWER. The answers are there, but the common layman, even with a little research can't answer.

[damaxman]

I agree with you %100. The true question to ask though, why would he do it?

Money.... When any church sees a man with social status they will be willing to pay them plentiful amounts to "spread their word." Currently, their word is "teach the controversy" and thus, Ben Stein has made huge amounts of money making Expelled. To be honest, I would too if the price was right.

[PhillipThunderGrunge]

I don't see him on National TV going on major News shows and trying to "Dispel Ben Stein"..huh...

well that is how the media works...lies and scandals..

[ThreeSixtydroid]

neither is that guy ^^^^^^^^^^

[PhillipThunderGrunge]

Ben Stein is not a scientist...nuff said

[ptango101]

Wow! you had a real crisis of faith. would you be prepared to give video response about that. I'm really interested to know how you went from creationist to....um...rejecting creation science.

[BuchaBe]

What makes so many people angry about Expelled? The reason is that "Expelled" uses so many dirty manipulative tricks. It is dead obvious that the authors of the movie are highly dishonest people.

Here is what may not be obvious:

I believe that in science (and in life, too), in order to be able to see the truth you must possess some level of honesty yourself.

So there is correlation between 1. Some one believes in intelligent design 2. That same person likes to hit under the belt

[NewGuy322]

Ben Stein you did a good job.

I liked John Lennox's comment in the movie, which basically said that we are led to believe from the Darwinists that the science comes first and then the world view comes second; however, Mr. Lennox suggested that it is actually the other way around i.e. The world view comes first and then it is used to interpret the science in light of the world view. This thought leads one back to theology which theology (at least Christian theology) explains.

[RestlessThoughts]

I agree. I was shocked at the things Ben said. I used to think he was a smart guy who knew how to do some research. He's a very sad man.