Baptism is not Salvation Exegesis

A critical examination, explanation and interpretation of Acts (2:38) confirmed by Acts (10:44-48) using Scripture to confirm Scripture. The Greek Rule is applied to Acts (2:38) because the translation to English doesn't preserve the break in thought marked by the change in number of person from the first clause to the second clause as well as revealing how clauses are allowed or are not allowed to go together based on The Greek Rule which comes to a clear and logical conclusion which is further solidified by confirmation in Acts (10:44-48) on the exact issue of baptism and where and when the remission of sins occurs along with receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit which is the seal of salvation.

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[wilby1414]

1 John 5:16

If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.

We are born under a curse (the sin of the world -John 1:29) this sin is DEATH and we can NOT pray this curse away--it takes action on our part. Baptism into Jesus Christ remitts this curse of DEATH and when the Holy Ghost enters us we are converted, regenerated & reborn unto LIFE

[epidome]

@wilby1414, this argument holds true if the receiving of the Holy Spirit is after baptism which Scripturally it clearly is not. I don't know if you are aware of Acts (10:44-48) or not or if you have also watch this video entirely and attentively. The Greek Rule doesn't allow for baptism being required for the receiving of the Holy Spirit coupled with Cornelius and the other gentiles with him receiving the Holy Spirit prior to baptism.

[clearedtoengage]

@epidome Every one of you repent, and let him [that repents] be baptized for remission of sins. Baptism is essential to salvation, for it is obedience, it is how we become slaves of righteousness (Rom. 6:1-3,17-18). Acts 10 clearly shows that the baptism of the Spirit does not save, for they still had to be baptized into water. 1 Pet. 3:21 "Baptism now saves you... not the removing of the filth of the flesh but the PLEDGE of a GOOD CONSCIENCE toward God."

[epidome]

@clearedtoengage, you clearly aren't paying attention to the entire video. This video reveals the Greek not the English and the conclusion you are drawing from the English cannot be drawn in Greek. This video is not opinion it is the Greek and what it will and will not allow.

[clearedtoengage]

@epidome I am paying attention to the video. The Greek does support that translation, for there is NO translation that translates it according to your false gospel. It's like what we have in English- dependent clauses and independent clauses. There is no such thing as a rule that makes you unable to combine two clauses that have different number and person.

[epidome]

@clearedtoengage, there is such a thing and it is called The Greek Rule and it is not a fabrication of mine. Google it and you will find that it is real and makes you unable to combine clauses that have different number and person. You see this is where the mistake is made, a doctine is generated based on English and then there is refusal to acknowledge Greek if it doesn't fit the doctrine founded in English conclusions. Not only that but there are those who were saved prior to baptism.

[clearedtoengage]

The force of this video is to "prove" that you cannot combine baptism and remission of sins. But the argument fails, due to the fact that in the NT Greek, there is no third person singular. The imperative takes only the second person. The Greek rule shows that their argument on the grammar of Acts 2:38 goes down with the rest of this video's sophistry.

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed You cannot stand against the power of God. You claim to follow Him, but you do not understand the Scriptures and twist them, to your own destruction (2 Pet. 3:16). I am not taking away from the words of God, I am taking EVERY SCRIPTURE INTO ACCOUNT, something you have failed to do. Repent and trust Jesus alone? I have done that! Trusting Jesus involves OBEYING WHAT HE TOLD YOU TO DO. You are not washed in the blood of the Lamb and you have never been in fellowship with God. Repent!

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed If faith only saves, then Paul was saved on the road to Damascus, correct? Well, if he was, apparently he sinned more between being saved and being baptized, for Ananias said to "wash away your sins" (Acts 22:16- through baptism). Either that, or maybe baptism really does wash away your sins! Why would the Holy Spirit tell Paul to wash away his sins, and then not tell him how? Baptism is the effectual way through which a man can wash away his sins, and call on the name of the Lord.

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed Antitupon- antitype not opposing model. But baptism saves us THROUGH JESUS CHRIST'S DEATH BURIAL AND RESURRECTION! How can you be so foolish and not comprehend? Without Jesus's death, burial, and resurrection, baptism would mean absolutely nothing! But BECAUSE OF HIS SACRIFICE, BAPTISM NOW SAVES US!

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed Bloodless? You fail at understanding the Bible. How do we contact the blood of Christ [only way we can be saved, through His blood- Matt. 26:28]? Romans 6:3 says it is through BAPTISM. Your gospel is bloodless, it is a false gospel perpetuated by those who would not obey the will of God (Matt. 7:21). JESUS SAID, He that believes AND IS BAPTIZED shall be saved. Belief and baptism are both necessary to salvation.

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed You are a fool. "Antitype" means foreshadowing, not opposing model. You are the one who takes away from the Word of God! There is "one baptism" (Eph. 4:4), the one Jesus preached (Mt. 28:18-20), the one the apostles preached FOR REMISSION OF SINS (Acts 2:38; Rom. 6:4; Acts 22:16; 1 Pet. 3:21). Baptism is a ANTITYPE which now saves us, it does not say that baptism now DOES NOT save you. Baptism is an antitype but baptism still saves THROUGH THE RESURRECTION OF JESUS.

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed You are the one who takes out words from God's Word. Acts 2:38 is never translated the way this video advocates. Greek scholars know a lot more about translating than you. You are OUT OF YOUR LEAGUE HERE. OBEY THE SCRIPTURES. Matt. 28:18-20 "baptizing them"- one baptism that saves- the one Jesus preached- Rom 6.

[clearedtoengage]

@locustweed You are correct, there is only one baptism that saves. WHICH ONE DID JESUS PREACH? Water baptism. The subject is not 3person it is 2nd. The Greek Grammar states plainly that the Imperative takes only the second person, and that there is no third person singular. Hedley and Allen, Greek Grammar, page 264. Thayers Greek Lexicon, page 192. Liddell and Scott, page 478.

[locustweed]

@clearedtoengage That is NOT TRUE. There is only "one baptism" that saves. You CANNOT have a singular subject and 'combine' it with a plural verb, The video is correct. Someone who continually 'takes out words' from God's HOLY WRIT are under a curse, and has no business 'playing greek scholar'.  The Greek "KAI" does not over-rule the "number, gender, or case" of the subject/verb agreement in the sentance. You are out of your league here. Obey the scriptures. And STOP TAKING GOD'S WORDS OUT!

[locustweed]

@clearedtoengage Always perverting the Bible--leaving out GOD'S Words that destroy your bloodless-water-gospel. 1 Peter 3:21 "THE LIKE FIGURE" Baptism is a FIGURE "ANTITUPON"(Greek) "opposing MODEL". A model is an "imitattion of the TRUE". Jesus Christ and His death Burial and Resurrection is the TRUE. Notice folks how this guy ALWAYS "takes away from the WORDS of God". There is a CURSE on those violate this command. REV. 22:19 Have a nice eternity, or repent and trust Jesus alone and live!