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And they say: "None shall enter paradise unless he be a Jew or a Christian." Those are their (vain) desires. Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful." Sura 2 Verse 111

'Deedat on BBC1 and East meets West' - TV Talk Show

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[zoom1177]

Search in google "gospel of mark chapter 12" and read verses 28 and 29.

The man asked "Which is the first commandment of all?".. he is simply saying: what is the most important commandment of all of them, if he means what is the first in order, he would say: "which is the first commandment OF ALL?"

he would've simply just said: which is the first commandment.

and according to Gospel of Mark chapter 12 verse 29 Jesus answered him"The Lord our God is one Lord"...Deedat was honest.

[frozenimran]

Haha the 4th guy in the group next to the Priest didnt get to talk

[sonofblessed]

Hi Vaea, that's a good insight, but the verse specifically reads "pru urvu, malu ha'aretz ve'chavshuha," which means "spread and multiply, fill the earth and subdue it." The language here is clearly a command, although one could apply a liberal interpretation to make it a direction (i.e., suggestion) and not a command. Jewish Law, based on this verse, explains that one who does not have children (unless he can't) is sinning, indicating that it is indeed a command. Yaniv...

[vaea46]

Sonofblessed, u have miss understood my brother. your be fruitful and multiply isnt a command. let me illustrate for u.

Example: A teenage turns 21 - The parent say too him, now u r old enough 2 get a job, and live independantly, and get married etc etc - words of directions from parents. same as God to Adam. words of direction, not a command. A command would be, hey look son your 21 now, i command you get job, leave my house, go get get a wife. etc. that isnt words of direction its A command

[sonofblessed]

2) An "eye for an eye" is explained by all Jewish sources as Lex Talionis - financial recompense for bodily damage.

[sonofblessed]

1) The first commandment, Exodus 20:2,"I am the LORD thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me." The Shema, Deuteronomy 6:4, "Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one." The Shema is not God's first commandment. In fact, His first commandment is "Be fruitful and multiply" in Genesis 1:22. Mr. Deedat, please be honest with yourself and your audience.