PHOTOGRAPHERS! Boycott Simon Malls: They have a photo policy that attacks YOUR 1st Amendment Rights

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THIS is my opinion/experience: Simon properties is a mall management group that has some awesome malls, HOWEVER they have a very strict photography policy that is ILLEGALLY enforced, it is perfectly legal to have a "no pictures" policy, BUT when you have guards that attempt to take peoples cameras AND force them to delete their photos, THAT IS ILLEGAL!! and falls under destruction of private property. ALL THEY CAN LEGALLY DO is tell the photographer to stop taking photos or leave. I for one have been a victim of simon. I took this photo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHn2s4NON8w and after taking it, me and my friend were backed into the elevator by a security guard where he demanded me to delete my photos (i told him the camera didnt work) either way they broke 2 laws. ONE false imprisonment and TWO attempted destruction of private property. my photos were CLEARLY not a security threat!!! I encourage anybody who is a photographer to contact Simon Properties and let them know POLITELY how you feel about their policy AND of course don't shop there until they can amend their policy. A good photography policy in a place like a mall is to prohibit tripods, flash photography or taking close up photos of people without their permission, In other words, non intrusive photography should not be dealt with.

HERE IS PINEPOWERLI'S description and opinions

Its already bad enough their malls are tacky and plastered in ads and commercials. But SIMON property group is much worse than that. I've had my experiences with them, like the time they told me to stop taking pictures of a thunderstorm from the Roosevelt Field parking deck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo4SVrYYm8M

But a fellow elevator enthusiast had a much worse experience at the Shops in Riverside in Hackensack,NJ. They were harassed by security, even after they stopped taking pictures. You can read their full story on Flickr's Photography is not a Crime group.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/photography_is_not_a_crime/discuss/7215762306498...

But it gets worse, folks wearing shirts protesting the war were arrested and ejected from the mall, because they refused to change their shirts. Like what happened to this 80 year old man at Smith Haven Mall.
http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/80...

Apparently Simon thinks those that aren't Obama fans shouldn't be allowed to sell their T-Shirts.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2298254/posts

Some states and counties have laws that state malls are public places and any REASONABLE public behavior cannot be prohibited. SIMON often uses the PRIVATE PROPERTY excuse for enforcing such draconian rules. Well I urge you to spend your money elsewhere. These modern day Nazis in mall management need to be shut down, as well as their security company, Allied-Barton.
Voice your outrage at SIMON!
https://www.simon.com/about_simon/

And tell these wanna-be cops they have no official power.
http://www.alliedbarton.com/

Bergen County Law: Malls Role as a Public Square
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shopping_malls_in_New_Jersey#Role_as_public_square

It is up to US to protect our freedom. Take a stand for what our soldiers fight and die for!

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[ArisaW]

I have a question. I recently went to a Hallmark in a Westfield mall, and took a picture of a brand item (a 5 inch tall Precious Moments statue), and one of the cashiers walked by, waited 5 seconds after I was done taking the picture, and then when I turned around, told me in an angry, upset, stressed out tone, that it was illegal to take pictures in the mall. and after i said sorry, she still repeated what she had said. I want to know why it is illegal if this item isn't even made by Hallmark?

[dieselducy]

@ArisaW it is not illegal to take a photo. that employee is an idiot. she does not know the law. They CAN ask you not to take photos as it is private property but it is not illegal.

[neurodistortion]

So my point is, it may be logical to boycott an entire company, but each mall is managed accordingly and some malls have different ways that they enforce their rules. You will also find that some managers are more open and accepting to photography than other ones at different malls. It's just the way certain malls are managed, and maybe it would be best just to steer clear from those that are less accepting than ones that are more accomodating to the policy.

[dieselducy]

@neurodistortion As you probably know, this is a re upload of somebody elses video. Most of the people have had trouble at roosevelt field mall. The only mall i have ever had trouble at was Lenox Square mall. Typically before I film an elevator, I simply make sure security is not watching and then there is no trouble :)

[MIKON8ERISBACK]

@Streetcar1743 The law says that privacy is only guaranteed in places like your own home, or in bathrooms and change rooms.

[Streetcar1743]

Texas is one state that welcomes photography. You can even film a ride on a public bus and not get in trouble. Now some bus drivers feel their privacy rights are being invaded if you are filming on the bus. That's one reason why I always state that if you are going to film a bus ride, to sit near the front behind the bus driver and look out the door. So that way when you hear the engine slow down for a passenger pick up, you can point your camera out the window.

[BABYBOY8182006]

I know it sucks, but the security are just doing their job. if there should be anyone to be angry with, its those damn terrorist that have raised the alert level world wide. its the only reason security are the way they are. just be lucky airport tsa doesnt work for the mall, then youd be strip searched lol.

[BABYBOY8182006]

Also if you were to go back and they remember you and follow you around, its because youve already been deemed as suspicious once before, and once again your on private property not to mention a place of buisness, wich they can refuse you the right to be a customer or participant of that buisness location.

[BABYBOY8182006]

The only way you would have a case is if they physicly touched you without reasonable cause or reason. then you can press charges for assualt. but they have the right to detain anyone and search anyone who is on their clients property performing suspicious activities.

[BABYBOY8182006]

BE ADVISED : All shopping centers are private properties with some that have hired security to observe and report anything on their clients private property, and to enforce all of their clients rules and regulations for that property. you have no case being that you were on private property.

[nidokingthefirst]

Does CBL have an illegal policy on photography? Because there's a CBL mall right near my house.

[shankfoot]

besides what hes describing in this video is harassment, you cant pick on one person for having a cellphone with a camera because there are probably 1000s of people with one in the same mall.

[shankfoot]

you cant get punished for calling a boycott, thats not constitutional...they can try to sue you but it probably wont hold up under scrutiny if they determine that the boycott is for a legitimate reason.

[GirlieGirl884]

I'm not sure if the same security runs Smithaven Mall, but this year on Black Friday I went shopping with my sister, at about 7am I began to feel really dizzy as to the heat was up in the stores, the crowds, and the smell of all the colognes and perfumes being sprayed around me. So I left the store I was in to sit outside on one of the chairs or benches to collect myself (I am very prone to fainting) when I left the store all of the seats were taken (some people very rudely using the chairs to