RE: Peter Singer - The Genius of Darwin: The Uncut Interviews - Richard Dawkins

This is my painfully drawn out response to the video of Richard Dawkins interviewing Peter Singer. I have a feeling I will do a multi-part video focused on this subject because it interests me a great deal.

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[VeganTruth]

thats not evidence that the diet is bad. Its just evidence that some people dont know how to eat properly. Ive been vegan for 7 years, and meat free for 14 years. i know lots of vegans who bring up there children vegan with no health problems. You can always find bad stories and point fingers at it as proof... however you have to look at all the healthy vegans and wonder.

More omnivores die each year due to malnutrition.

[rojassan]

That's a great way to argue. You've pretty much just laced a tired argument of "well they/we do it too" with insults, so you've basically gone no where.

[FIGHTFANNERD3]

@VeganTruth vegan's are not more healthy fact

[mellamosean]

@WalksWithoutGod

So to sum it up.

1. vegans get more respect than they deserve ---that's simply not an argument whatsoever.

2. Abstracting moral values from the behaviors of other animals leads to the conclusion rape is acceptable.

3. (accidental) strawman

Your only real argument is the 2nd one, and I'd be happy to go into further detail about why I think it's fallacious. Btw, I respect you for putting your opinion out knowing you would get a lot of flak.

[mellamosean]

@WalksWithoutGod

Now, the point you brought up about growing meat in a laboratory. I have heard of and considered this, and my conclusion is that there is nothing morally objectionable about it. Try not to get hung-up on the irrationalities of individuals. In fact, I think you'll find a higher percentage of non-vegans who would oppose the idea of "growing" meat. I don't have the facts on nutrition, I'll leave that alone.

[mellamosean]

@WalksWithoutGod

I am one of the so-called ethical vegans you speak of. First of all, you mention that non-human animals show no empathy for their prey, and you think this is somehow related to the question of whether or not it is moral to kill animals for food. Please explain the logical relation. It seems you're using a "it's moral because it's natural" argument. Rape, infanticide, and (animal version of) homicide also occur in nature. Is that defense of those acts?

[rodrigoferrarinunes]

@VeganTruth - It's baffling someone would like to eat "lab meat" instead of growing vegetables themselves, and learn about 'nutrition' by looking at all the variation of nutrients that exists in vegetables. And, he forgot to wonder: "how did they get to have about a billion people in India on a vegetarian diets"? If you only eat potato, of course you will die of malnutrition. Pythagoras, who was quite important, was vegetarian (w/ reason): just google 'Pythagoras vegetarian'

[NEUHEITEN100]

@NEUHEITEN100 well. Try this: under lions its the males that eat first than the women, so its sexist for a man to share his food with a woman.

I never meet a vegetarian who is against lab-meat. PETA even offers 1.000.000 dollar to the company that brings lab meat on the market till 2012.

I guess id try it, but actually i dont have any desire for meat.

3. Because meat production is the least necessarely but most harmfull issiue, we need to start there..

excuse my english, its not my1thlanguage

[NEUHEITEN100]

@NEUHEITEN100 .. deforestation and global warming. There is enough plant food produced to feed 13billion people but we use most of that food for life stock. Thats insane in a world where 40.000 children r starving every day. Since millions of people have proven that veganism is a completly healthy way of life its not them who r arrogant, but the omnivores.

Humans left the path of nature long time ago, its just stupid to compare our actions with them of a meat eater and say they r seciesist as

[NEUHEITEN100]

it obvious that u dont come from a scientific backround.. ur arguments r weak..

besides its really exhausting to watch this video.. u should think of what u wanna say before u switch on the camera nor after.. maybe make some notes..

1. I can give u way more examples for pro veganism than u gatherd.. olympic athlets who won medals live vegan for decades. hunderts of great physicians who promote veganism.

2. The production af meat and dairy is the main reason for environmental polution, ...

[richsmith2005]

It’s a well established fact that people who avoid meat have lower body mass index than those following an average western diet and from this follows lower death rates from heart disease, lower cholesterol, lower blood pressure and lower rates of type 2 diabetes, and various forms of cancer.

Bad diet is bad diet, wether vegan or otherwise.

[otonanoC]

Dear WalksWithoutGod,

Did you even watch the interview?

Peter Singer does not promote veganism. They talked at length about shellfish and fish and their nervous systems. Singer himself probably drinks organic whole milk. You dun goofed!