St. Patrick's Breastplate

St. Patrick's Breastplate

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[perpaulum]

You have an anti-Catholic bias which betrays a gross ignorance of the past two millenia of Christian history. That perhaps is why you are so heated, you never heard this ancient Irish prayer nor of the mighty works of Christ through the apostle of Ireland, Saint Patrick, who very effectively converted the pagans to faith in Christ with purity and goodness in the love of God.  And the Irish eagerly became and have remained Catholic for 16 centuries. That's the history. Why get upset at that?

[tombrisson]

Oh, yes you can Jwiverson! Let Patrick speak to your heart long enough and he'll charm you right into faith. Just as he did to those good Irish people more than a thousand years ago and to many of us still today.

[crsom]

I love this prayer.

[hiroshi2020]

@blkgardner

Okay, you deny that. That's your opinion, you're more than allowed to have it. But by denying that the church was not subject to the Successor of St Peter, you are denying history. 

[blkgardner]

@hiroshi2020 I deny the claim all Christian churches were subject to the Pope pre-Schism or the claim that the Roman Catholic church is the One True Church. The Eastern churches were never subject to the bishop of Rome, the Celtic churches were not subject to the Pope until long after the time of St. Patrick, and the Pope's authority was still quite limited outside of Italy.

[hiroshi2020]

@blkgardner Yes, even though St Patrick was British, he was of the Christian faith, which was subject to the Successor of St Peter, the Pope. He was the Bishop of Ireland, which was subject to the Pope. This was before the Great Schism, so ALL truly Christian churches were subject to the Pope. If a Christian didn't bring Christianity to Ireland, than who did?

[blkgardner]

@hiroshi2020 First off, Patrick was British, and wasn't sent by the bishop of Rome. Following that logic would mean that all churches are subject to Jerusalem through Antioch. Second, although the Roman bishops did have "primacy" over western churches, in Ireland, it would have been comparable to the "primacy" of the archbishop of Canterbury over non-British Anglican churches. I.e. primacy of honor but little if any authority over the Celtic churches.

[hiroshi2020]

@blkgardner Actually, the Church in Ireland was ALWAYS subject to the Bishop of Rome, because it is the Bishop of Rome who sent the Church to Ireland.

[HektorPedo]

Ja, sehr niedlich.

[blkgardner]

@perpaulum Ireland was not subject to the bishop of Rome until the 12th century, although the Irish church did not significantly differ in doctrine from "Latin" Christianity.

[bernhardfranz]

you must not believe in God ... I have seen God and you must not believe in Him ! consumer warning association .. God is not SAG ! He is no SAG member ! He is not with WARNER ARTIST LTD. HE has NO producer ! HE is NOT a star and OUT !

[7SonsofFeanor]

A nice rendition of this ancient prayer! When I saw the word "Loyola," I hoped it would be the same version used by Fr. Hardon, SJ, and I was not disappointed. :)