Me 262 & Jagdverband 44

Short film about the famous JV44.

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• Me262
• jv44
• galland
• steinhoff
• luftwaffe
• ww2
• wk2
• aviation
• luftfahrt
• schwalbe
• stormbird
• war
• krieg
• nazi
• ss
• waffenss

[MrOutofthis]

amazing how all the nazi lovers forget the glouster meteor was the first jet fighter,british not german

[wotanderwilde]

Well, Me 262, first flight, 18th July 42...

GM, first flight, 5th March 43...

[pandissix]

The "old guy" is Mackie Stienhoff Knights cross winner and one of the few surviving pilots of JV44. He crashed on takeoff and burned his injuries to his face were from the crash. He continued to serve is country and the Luftwaffe in later years. Try to show him some respect please.

[lamage89]

This really makes one appreciate that the German fighting men are the same as the American and British why we think of THEM as nazie monsters i dont know because it was fight or be killed in your own home.

[jagdflieger100]

@MrOutofthis no me 262 came first and they're not nazi lovers, from an Englishman!

[gatilg]

Gute Video-Glückwünsche. :)

Einer der Schande, dass die Jagd, aber nicht Hitler den Wünschen der verwendeten

Schnell Bombardier.

[lordsaaris]

production if this plane had not stopped nearly 2 years and had been ready for 1943 do not know what had happened with the guerra.lo truth is that the allies did not have anything to oppose this wonderful German based technology

[kimball2104]

@Vermiliontea The Germans made a mistake by not going with 2 jets the He280 and the Me262, the He280 would have been a much better dog fighter than the 262, and could have been in the air in 1943, just in time for the Allied bombing campaign. Maybe???? Who know?? We could have seen P-80's and Gloster jets in jet-jet air combat with the Germans.

[Rooster1Cogburn]

@MrOutofthis What are you fucking retarded or something?

[Vermiliontea]

@fluffy1931 Me 262 is still worthy of some respect. It did pioneer a few technical solutions which were immediately gobbled up by US.

I always like to point out the reason for Germany to be ahead in '43 and behind in '45: It's the same reason: The germans went for an axial flow compressor. This made them achieve good thrust early, with a light engine. But it's also full of problems. Which is why the american/british radial compressor engines would be much better in '45 and '46.

[Vermiliontea]

@fluffy1931 I was speaking about '43. By '45 the americans were definitely far ahead of the germans when it comes to making a practical jetfighter. Which makes much of the luft'46 fanboys makebelieve just a bad joke ofc. What you failed to mention is that the P-80's wingloading was also far lower, making it a much more flyable aircraft. It's generally acknowledged that the Me 262 didn't stand a chance against a P-51 in a turning fight. By contrast, the P-80 outclassed both the Bearcat and P-51

[fluffy1931]

@Vermiliontea not really dude.The Lockheed P-80A maximum speed was 558 mph at sea level and 492 mph at 40,000 feet. Initial climb rate was 4580 feet/minute, and an altitude of 20,000 feet could be attained in 5.5 minutes. Service ceiling was 45,000 feet. The P-80A’s normal range was 780 miles, and maximum range was 1440 miles.

P-80's climb rate is almost 700 feet per min faster. (4580 v 3880 feet per minute)

And the P-80’s service ceiling is 7,400 feet higher. (45,000 v 37,565 ft.)

[Vermiliontea]

The video is confusing in the sense that it contains more Me 110 and allied fighter gun camera fotage than Me 262 gun camera.

[Vermiliontea]

@wotanderwilde It depends on what you mean by "first flight". Various testing planes flew earlier, some were even powered by piston engines, but the final Me 262 configuration didn't fly until July '43.

What is perhaps more relevant, is that no other jet aircraft of this early time could even approach the performance of the Me 262. At this early time. The Meteor could "fly". But not fast.

Finally, other jet aircrafts, both german and british, flew well before both the Meteor and Me 262.