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Uploaded by on Sep 14, 2008

A brief exploration of the nature/nurture question inspired by Robmuch's discussion of that issue.

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  • If someone can be molded from either heterosexual to gay or gay to heterosexual, then they are actually neither. They are subconsciously bisexual with subconscious mental blocks on their attraction to one of the genders. By changing those mental blocks they can change which gender they are currently attracted to, but they are still bisexual.

    Someone who is truly gay or straight cannot be molded by therapy be strongly attracted to what they are not biologically programmed to be attracted to.

  • @regemo Who's to say that not everyone has a biological POSSIBILITY of being attracted to some form of the same sex? I don't think that's an incredible theory.

  • I understand what you are saying.I think you are correct that perhaps people are exploring more, however it could also be that since homosexuality has become more mainstream and it does not hold the same conations as you will lose all family and friends your job will be at risk I think it is more of a confidence issue then being susceptible to a certain lifestyle. We will always have those people that will conform so to speak just to fit in.

  • I'm sure there is at least an element of that, yes.

  • On the other hand, my best friend fits the description of what one would call the STEREOTYPICAL gay guy - likes fashion, musicals, theatre, Starbucks, doing his hair and he respects girls - yet he is straight.

    He spends a fair amount of his time around me (I am gay btw) and to be quite frank, I can be rather camp at times, and this has rubbed off on him. He even comes with me clubbing in the gay bars up London. He has ALL the opportunity to be "turned" but he hasn't.

  • That's interesting. I see what you mean, with regard to a set 'disposition towards', and that being allowed to manifest or not by society. But my point is that it's more accurate to say that many people have a potential to be gay or bi--which would probably otherwise manifest as having close same-sex 'friends'.

    I do agree, however, that there are definitely people who just like men and are simply sexually attracted to them.

    Thanks for your comments :-)

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  • Very interesing. Some good points raised there.

    I tend to agree with you that circumstances can dictate who a person becomes, but I'm believe that people are born heterosexual/homosexual/bisexu­al, and the ciscumstances shape what they DO with their sexuality, rather than their actual sexuality.

    For example, I know of someone who has recently come out, who was brought up almost neo-Nazi and was so afraid of physical contact with a man that even a manly hug was petrifying.

    TBC

  • I see little evidence that the discussion of homosexuality increases peoples inclinatio towards being gay. I could equally then say that discussing heterosexuality makes people more straight. No, what discussion does is that allows more people to accept their sexuality and not have to hide it. There are not necessarily more gays but there are more people who are more likely to not hide their sexuality this being more open about it. There are gays and there are straights. Live and let live.

  • The most effective way to educate is to expose people to something and is this sense it is to show that gay people really are no different to heterosexuals. They both fall in love. Also by exposing people to their way of life you help discard many of the myths such as promiscuity and that gay people can't fall in love. The important issue is not why we are gay or straight. So what and big deal. The issue is about accepting different life styles and tolerance. Simple.

  • Lol you are I think being defensive as I have not disagreed with you. I was giving my view just as you gave yours so need to worry and get defensive. I resolved my issues years ago. Many others have not. The point is the nurture/nature argument is irrelevant. Heteros may be in the majority but that does is not really relevant. As for normative evolutionary theory well so do homosexuals. They have been with us for since evolution began many getting married and having families themselves.

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