Sunny ECW Segment

From 08.29.98

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Sports

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• sunny
• tammy
• lynn
• sytch
• ecw
• old
• school
• segment
• lance
• storm

[Daavidd4]

@DUBtheTIGER you have valid points, but like you said it's a matter of opinion. Sable, in my opinion, was the first true "diva" :)

[DUBtheTIGER]

@Daavidd4 But I wanna make it clear that in my opinion, BOTH Sunny and Sable deserve a hell of a lot of credit, because it's between the two of them that the modern diva was born. Since I don't think a diva needs to wrestle, that's why I ultimately choose Sunny. I think Sable is the archetype for the divas but Sunny laid the foundation for her. She was the first woman to get TV time just for being sexy. But I'm not knocking Sable at all.

And of course, we don't have to agree.

[DUBtheTIGER]

@Daavidd4 Sable wasn't the first to combine those two things. Alundra Blayze was. And to a smaller extent, Sherri. But in my opinion, that isn't what makes them Divas, it's more about the "sex sells" attitude, with photo shoots, purely eye-candy segments, etc... Not every Diva wrestled. Trish, Lita, sure. But what about Torrie and Stacy? They couldn't work.

[Daavidd4]

@DUBtheTIGER It doesn't matter how the got in to the business. Look at Trish, a fitness model. The fact of the matter is. Sunny was NOT a diva. She was a manager. (A good manager, but a manager only) Sable coined the term "Diva" If sunny was the true original and the mold for the divas we see today, we would only have good looking managers. We don't we have "sexy" women in the ring, winning belts. Whowas the first to combine the two? Sable. Sable is the TRUE original diva, that's "end of story"

[DUBtheTIGER]

@Daavidd4 ..@hulkamania4eva is right. Sunny actually came up through developmental, Sable was just Mero's wife.

Sunny was offered Playboy. FACT. And it would have sold very well, trust me.

Furthermore, the arguement isn't who's best its who's FIRST and the fact is Sunny was first. Period. She's the one who changed things from "valet" to "diva". Who cares if Sable held the belt? Torrie Wilson sucked as a wrestler, she's still an iconic diva. And Sunny was the first. End of story

[Daavidd4]

@Hulkamania4eva By me saying sunny was in the right place at the right time doesn't mean I think sable wasn't. Again I dont need a history lesson. Sable was the first true diva. She posed for one of the be selling playboys of all time. And held the womens title for 6 months. Sunny's career is far less decorated, and that's just fact.

[Hulkamania4eva]

@Daavidd4 Just need to add that Sable got on television because she was Marc Mero's wife and Vince and Kevin Dunn got a hard on for her. So add hypocrite to the list of labels I have for you lol. If anyone was right place, right time it was Sable lmao!

[Hulkamania4eva]

@Daavidd4 How is it just right place, right time if she was doing good work on in SMW, earning a spot in the WWF when the WWF was not making any money? You are just full of hot-air at this point, biased by your emotional issue with Tammy Sytch. Sunny was doing the photo's shoots and all of that before Sable, so how is Sable the original Diva? None of your claims make any sense man. You may not need a history lesson but for damn sure you need a lesson in logic and common sense.

[Daavidd4]

@Hulkamania4eva Sable entered in 1996. Im aware she was later than Tammy. All i'm saying is, sable was the first woman to be called a "diva". WWE uploaded a youtube video even stating it. And showing the promo in which she stated her self "The Diva Of the World Wrestling Federation" She was the true original "diva" go youtube it. That's fact. No opinion. I know what sunny is. Where she has been and what she has done. I don't need a history lesson.

[Daavidd4]

@Hulkamania4eva she was in the right place at the right time. SMW was where she was found by WWF. Therefore, she was in the right place at the right time. She filled a gap. WWF saw her and used her as "Tamara Murphy" im well aware of my facts and i have the all in place. All im saying is, she isn't as big of a success as she and her fans believe she is. She had a good run. But she should NOT be classed as the original diva. Nor should she feel responsible for the women we see on Tv today.