RE: Rick Perry on Capital Punishment and the Importance of Innocence

Video I'm responding to

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRDncqc-N9s&feature=feedu

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[Bloodthr0e]

I mean following your same logic, people shouldn't go to jail for 10 years for stealing money simply because innocent people have been wrongly convicted of stealing money. Innocent people being convicted is unavoidable. People need to be punished. That is a necessity. And yet there is no reason to keep dangerous murderers alive. It is neither vital nor helpful to society. It is only a drain on society.

[smpunditz]

@Bloodthr0e I explicitly explained my video the difference between incarcerating an innocent person and executing them. I will not repeat myself again for your benefit.

[Bloodthr0e]

@smpunditz Good to know you ran out of rebuttle.

[smpunditz]

@Bloodthr0e I didn't run out of rebuttals I am just not interested in repeating a statement I made in the damn video. I don't need to rebut points I've already addressed.

[Robstailey]

personally, i think the death penalty should be available to anyone who is given a life sentence. it should be their choice, simply because some people would rather die than spend their life in jail.

[kloneo]

@Broggy69 not done by judge? That's the only thing left that, at least aspires to be, some safeguard against justice becoming the child of public prejudiced and media opinion. I am for the death penalty if it is for a brutal and/or multiple premeditated murder/rape. But make sure the physical evidence of the crime is saved and DNA tested because it's too easy to fail and wrongly convict without it. I don't want innocent people to die just because they were in wrong place at wrong time.

[Broggy69]

@theheinzification I am not fully against the death penalty, but also not for it. I think there are some people out who only want to harm people, so if they have life time imprisonment, with no chance of parole, then fine, but that rarely happens. The death penalty though needs some extra safeties involved, such as a trial for punishment and not done by a judge, with all evidence to be presented. The trial would not be about the crime, but whether or not the death penalty should be allowed.

[theheinzification]

@Broggy69 no doubt.

so your post wasnt directly related to the death penalty. i understood that wrongly. my bad.

[Broggy69]

@theheinzification Correct, here say, and falsified evidence should be, but DNA, finger, prints, pictures, and video shouldn't, just because an investigator, not properly initialed, dated, signed, or filled out the forms should be dismissed, because that is human error. A better way, though would increase the time of the trial, is have the Jury decided what evidence they feel is important to the case. For every innocent person in jail, is one guilty person that is free.

[theheinzification]

@Broggy69 evidence: i wanted to point out, that some evidence is rightfully dismissed. hearsay for example. but youre probably right, a lot is lawyer-ish trickery. i dont think it works that way where i live though, but we dont have death penalty (and nevertheless a way lower crime rate and way less ppl in jail) anyways.

so do you wanna suggest a better system in dealing with evidence would dependably protect innocent ppl from getting convicted?

[Broggy69]

@theheinzification What constitutes as evidence? Are you kidding? E-mails, Letters, DNA, fingerprints, anything that proves or disproves that 1 the person was thinking about said crime, 2 Was at said crime scene at the time the crime was committed, and 3 all evidence from the crime scene and personal housing be used. A lot of innocent people are put into jail, because layers are more interested in winning cases, then the truth, so they try to get as much evidence inadmissible.

[LatumWay]

@joshcena33 i no rite

[joshcena33]

@Bloodthr0e I could say the exact same thing about your position. How would you feel if someone burned down with your family inside? Then the state calls YOU an arsonist, locks you up in prison and declares that you will be executed. But you'd be okay with that wouldn't you? After all, it saves resources. You don't want to volunteer to be executed for no reason? What a hypocrite you are...tch...