First Hydrogen Bike

Manhattan Scientifics First Hydrogen Bike.
This company started it all in bicycles using hydrogen and fuel cells.

Category:

Science & Technology

Tags:

• Hydrogen
• Fuel
• Cell
• cells
• alternative
• energy

[larryllix]

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Hydrogen conversion from other fuels is a wasteful, expensive process.

Use the original fuel directly for a lower cost of operation unless the lower poluttion DUING USAGE ONLY*** is required.

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[juki0h]

holy crap! thats actually pretty cool. could customize that tech into something else. but where do you get the hydrgogen?

[thinkmanworld]

@juki0h tht is the main quetion...

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 -

i've always known we wont have petrol cars in the future, but in recent years learned that FF"s are the basis for the entire industrial age, including things like computers, telecoms and even bicycles. we won't be able to extract refine manipulate metals to the same extent. Seriously, you go and try and make a bike using renewable resources only. welding..

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 -

euopeans are better than americans at living without cars for sure, because the cities are older. I'm sure some smart americans will manage though. but cars aren't the problem, the problem is food & water for 6+billion people currently 'bred' by global trade & industrial agriculture which amplified useable food. 8x pop based on fossil-fuels since industrial revolution.

back to web/telecoms, its also reliant on energy to maintain long cables/beam signals

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38

>>"We have the Internet, free media etc all INDEPENDENT of fossil fuels"

- wrong. The web is dependant on a highly specialized society facilitated by movement of materials, villages can't make their own microprocessors. Web is dependant on continuous manufacture of hard-drives , neither they not sollid state are lasting information stores. like biology our information must be continuously churned by burning energy -ENTROPY is natures' law,total disorder always increases.

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 - industrial revolution has fast-forwarded a geological age (like supervolcano) FF's took 10m's of of yrs to accumulate.. gasses all returned in the blink of an eye (200 yrs). we are going through a manmade mass extinction now. Know why earth accumulates so many symbioses (such as fruit-bearing plants+seed-dispersing animals?) - when a new creature evolves, if it behaves symbiotically, the whole sys thrives as does it.But reverse, damage feeds back to itself and it goes extinct :)

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 -

we are all doomed, its called reality.

>>"Historically lack of resources leads to ADAPTION & INVENTION"

no.

historically geological ages come and go and entire species go extinct.. we wont but this over-adapted state wont last. Earth is 4billion years old, our history is a very short blip and I remind you, our 'tech' has very low information content compared to the biosphere as a whole. Seriously compare the engineering in a microprocessor to the 'human body' or even 'an amoeba'

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 -

private car will become luxury for super-rich.

most will transition to Dormitories, Teleworking, Public transport (electric trains) and Bicycles. bicycles will be the superior form of transport. electric trains already existed and they are why you can see our TECHNOLOGY is not the problem, its the reliance on the overall energy levels. people rejected Sinclair C5 because they didn't like low energy transport compared to luxurious Private Cars.

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 - our tech only looked good for 200yrs years while we have millions of years of stored algae energy to splurge our way through. the rest of the biosphere uses solar-powered recycling nanotechnology. Computers are great, i love them,but the brain generates consicousness using 20 watts of power ? our comps are nowhere near. how will they look when we have no more ff's for manufacture .. material choices etc. we can't make anything as good as spidersilk, spiders have built in.

[walter0bz]

@crazybear38 -

it appears I understand energy and you dont. We use fossil fuels not because of engineering properties, but because they are a ready made energy store. Technologies like hydrogen fuel cells and electric motors were discovered simultanously. I would argue solar concentrators/windmills are actually easier to master than offshore drilling rigs. I've seen DIY on youtube. Humanity is not 'endlessly adaptable'. our tech is crude and simplistic compared to what evolution created.

[crazybear38]

@walter0bz I think we may have to agree to disagree. You seem to think any divergence from the status quo in terms of technology is impossible and so we therefore must live and die by fossil fuels. Nothing I can say will make you recognise that this simply is not true, humanity is endlessly adaptable and inventive we will live and further develop on past the loss of abundant fossil fuels. Ideas like this ebikes, ecars, hbike, hcars, public transportation is the bow wave of this needed change.