There is no such thing as a "true" Christian. What you are saying is there are interpretations of Christianity that more or less coincide with your own interpretation, and you personally believe that the ones that most coincide with your own are the "truer" interpretations. The reality is that virtually all Christians cherry pick from the Scriptures and interpret it in the way that best suits their particular situation. Hence why there are tens of thousands of interpretations of Christianity.
We all have a fallen nature, it's called sin or the tendency to sin or rebell against God. Sin can be further devided into sins: lust, pride, envy jealosy, wrath etc. That's why Pastor Warren says he has a tendency to have sex with every beautiful woman he sees...this would be under lust. But God can deliver us from this tendency through His Son Jesus Christ, if we repent and humble ourselves.
Well, regardless of Warren's position and the media's take on it, let me just say this: a true Christian's attitude is one of reaching out and helping. Aside from those things God specifically forbids, a true Christian will not turn away anyone seeking a more abundant life as long as they want to be on track with God's way to that abundant life.
Where does it say or show that he bans 'gays' from his church? I'd like to see that.
So, you're saying because a text accounts for the supernatural, it is automatically on equal terms with every other document that accounts for the supernatural?
Anything that robs life or the abundance thereof is the result of sin at some level at some point in time - the devil's doorway into this realm. God can, however, harness the results of sin for his purposes. God is not the author of them, though.
Actually, Warren does ban gays from his church. And I really do think you are an atheist, you just haven't come to terms with it yet. The day you realize that you have just as much reason to believe in your supernatural God as you have to believe in your Zeus, will be the day when you are ready to accept it.
Do you also blame mental illness and disease on the devil? How about natural disasters?
I don't agree with your use of the word atheist. I also don't see conclusive evidence demonstrating the supernatural as invalid. As for Warren, I don't think he bans 'gays' from his church. If he take's the Bible's stance on homosexual behavior, then he'd see it as sin (which is often prompted by temptation). It seems unfair that one should fight against that temptation because it could be 'built-in' biologically. That unfair predisposition is not God's work, though, but his Adversary's.
My argument is that we are both atheists, and that I simply believe in one less God than yourself, and as soon as you understand that I don't believe in your supernatural God for the same reasons you don't believe in all the God's of other mythologies, it will become clear that both of us truly don't believe in any supernatural Gods. That is my proof.
I'm offended by Warren. A so called "Christian" who bans gays from joining his church and teaches homosexuality can be "cured".
Well, Mr. Warren, beautiful women are naturally incline to run the other way!!!
kwadruple 3 years ago
There is no such thing as a "true" Christian. What you are saying is there are interpretations of Christianity that more or less coincide with your own interpretation, and you personally believe that the ones that most coincide with your own are the "truer" interpretations. The reality is that virtually all Christians cherry pick from the Scriptures and interpret it in the way that best suits their particular situation. Hence why there are tens of thousands of interpretations of Christianity.
solandcb 3 years ago
We all have a fallen nature, it's called sin or the tendency to sin or rebell against God. Sin can be further devided into sins: lust, pride, envy jealosy, wrath etc. That's why Pastor Warren says he has a tendency to have sex with every beautiful woman he sees...this would be under lust. But God can deliver us from this tendency through His Son Jesus Christ, if we repent and humble ourselves.
graftedin1996 3 years ago
I saw the video. Thanks for showing that to me.
Well, regardless of Warren's position and the media's take on it, let me just say this: a true Christian's attitude is one of reaching out and helping. Aside from those things God specifically forbids, a true Christian will not turn away anyone seeking a more abundant life as long as they want to be on track with God's way to that abundant life.
jmbarnardy1 3 years ago
Just watch this video:
watch?v=Xz4O8j8MIhs
Yes, I would say that the Bible has just as much validity as any other religious text.
I guess you must consider the state to be the work of the devil since it can go to war and put people to death via penalty of law.
solandcb 3 years ago
Where does it say or show that he bans 'gays' from his church? I'd like to see that.
So, you're saying because a text accounts for the supernatural, it is automatically on equal terms with every other document that accounts for the supernatural?
Anything that robs life or the abundance thereof is the result of sin at some level at some point in time - the devil's doorway into this realm. God can, however, harness the results of sin for his purposes. God is not the author of them, though.
jmbarnardy1 3 years ago
Actually, Warren does ban gays from his church. And I really do think you are an atheist, you just haven't come to terms with it yet. The day you realize that you have just as much reason to believe in your supernatural God as you have to believe in your Zeus, will be the day when you are ready to accept it.
Do you also blame mental illness and disease on the devil? How about natural disasters?
solandcb 3 years ago
I don't agree with your use of the word atheist. I also don't see conclusive evidence demonstrating the supernatural as invalid. As for Warren, I don't think he bans 'gays' from his church. If he take's the Bible's stance on homosexual behavior, then he'd see it as sin (which is often prompted by temptation). It seems unfair that one should fight against that temptation because it could be 'built-in' biologically. That unfair predisposition is not God's work, though, but his Adversary's.
jmbarnardy1 3 years ago
My argument is that we are both atheists, and that I simply believe in one less God than yourself, and as soon as you understand that I don't believe in your supernatural God for the same reasons you don't believe in all the God's of other mythologies, it will become clear that both of us truly don't believe in any supernatural Gods. That is my proof.
I'm offended by Warren. A so called "Christian" who bans gays from joining his church and teaches homosexuality can be "cured".
solandcb 3 years ago
While I don't fully agree with the terminology you used, I can kind of see your argument.
I'm assuming your argument is this: supernatural claims found within a document cause invalidation of that document.
My question is this: can you conclusively prove that argument?
And, as an aside: it seems that you are offended by something here. May I ask what that might be?
jmbarnardy1 3 years ago