Motorists queue ahead of China fuel price rise - 20 June 08

On Friday Beijing hiked the cost of fuel by 18-percent. As a result -on the other side of the globe in New York - oil prices fell by almost five-dollars. Traders are worried that Chinese consumers won't buy as much petrol - dampening global demand for oil. Al Jazeera's Laura Kyle reports on how China's price rise is providing hope for the rest of globe.

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[lanwt]

It's a downright lie.

How can you utter such falsehoods?

[tommytommy01]

how do you know this, were you sold for sex too before?

[Powa2]

Yes I heard it too, The guys was smiling at 0:49 and said, the price doesn't affect me that much and the translation is, the price definitely affects me. Whoa bad translation from a news source!

[teemuruskeepaa]

So tell me. Why do you think that this system is ok with a deep breath?

[mengwise36]

To me, Marxism is an ideal, a philosophy. Just like Taoism and Buddhism and all other philosophies, it describes a vision in the future. And you are right; there is no road map on how to get there so Lenin and then Mao created their own road maps.

As long as we are not in communism utopia, Marxists are just in it for the power, power to advance their own agenda. Lincoln did not start the Civil War to free the slaves, emancipation was a by product. Marxists' goal is not to free the poor.

[teemuruskeepaa]

All debate dies where people start quoting their POV about marxism. We must see beyond Marx and think for ourselves. Maybe we can both agree that Marxists want to organize politically and form state ownership. But they can't think futher Marx's agenda of political emancipation. Communists are just a bunch of selfish special interest groups who trip over the same concentration of capital. Another very ironic thing is how the ordinary revolutionaries follow blindly some doctrines.

[mengwise36]

Actually, communism in Marx's vision is a global society without politics and without boundaries. As long as people are still identified by their religion or nationality or class or political parties, communism will remain a vision.

[teemuruskeepaa]

So the debate has shifted from the mass media to the socialism. Another thing that everyone seem to forget is that Marxism does not mean any actual procedure like forcing out or outlawing private enterprises and it really is just a descriptive, protosociological theory about one thing, the political emancipation. Through that you get automatically rid of private enterprises. Communists are grazy if they think they can emancipate the proletariat by ruling against the bourgeiois.

[mengwise36]

We shall see. A couple of pre-conditions have to be in place to a Marxist approach. As long as people view Marxism as "godless", as long as there is still a stabilizing middle class, the Marxist approach is not going to work, in certain countries at least.

And the key to a Marxism utopia that everyone seem to forget is that it has to be global.

[teemuruskeepaa]

The marxist approach is utopian and simply the result of the real problem, the problem of who gives orders and who obeys them. And the real socialist revolution is the political emancipation.