The 9th World Open Karate Tournament 2007-E.Tanaka VS Soukup

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Eduardo Tanaka VS Yan Soukup

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• kyokushin
• 9th
• world
• open
• tournament
• 2007
• eduardo
• tanaka
• yan
• soukup

[ferodou6666]

good fight!

[Bassai]

@VegetaJr3 You're an anime kid right?  You've never sparred or have no idea about what Kyokushin is. Oh, my poor son...

[snkhuong]

i don't know why but some moves look similar to muay thai's

[TakeshixStudios]

@Bassai Arguing style v.s style? Kyokushin is way more reliable.

[Kaisertoji]

@ax3ninja ok you 2 can stop arguing now thats a do mawashi in tkd a turning long kick

[Bassai]

@ax3ninja Sorry if this is frustrating. I just don't accept evidence if it has flaws. Again, keeping the argument to this Kyokushin-style tournament, I think a TKD guy has adjust hist strategy and training to win and a simple solid sidekick pr spinning back kick isn't enough. My proof is the Russian vid, a tournament done with Kyokushin rules. Under TKD rules, Kyokushin obviously won't win.

[ax3ninja]

in know you're not trying to bash, its aggrivating trying to explain certain things in words. all i can really advise is going to see master cariati in canada... thats the only group that i know of that do propper traditional general choi style taekwon-do. its hard to explain what im trying to say and ive given you evidence of theory. grabbing isnt allowed in tkd rules, but often its too quick.

[Bassai]

@ax3ninja Also, I hope you can see I'm not bashing TKD as an art. I think it is effective if you know what you are doing, but I'm keeping this argument strictly to this one. My background is Shotokan, Kyokushin and BJJ. I also train every Sunday in NYC with friends who do TKD, Wing Chun and the like. I also am Martial Art history buff. I plan to be a History teacher for Mid and High school.

[ax3ninja]

oh for god sake im getting really bored of this. can you not except that a martial art that basesvery heavily on kicks can put damage on your kyu karate? the evidence is starign you right there. the fact is kyu and certain things and tkd has certain things. as ive said its speed, and the guys in that vid present that evidence. the tkd guy was just too fast and yes, 2, 3 or maybe more kicks can be landed. there is a point on the hip that WILL buckle you, trust me, i always aim there.

[Bassai]

@ax3ninja Also, in Kyokushin rules you are allowed to briefly grab a kick so the opponent can't follow up decently with another. Also, about the science of one being doubled over when hit in the midsection, again that idea has too many variables. As per said Russian vid, one guy threw a beautiful spinning back which landed squarely, but the Kyokushin guy took it well.

[Bassai]

No decent Kyokushin fighter is going to take two or three successive kicks in the midsection because he'd be moving forward or side, turn his body, use small evasive maneuvers and so forth. Plus his strategy against good kickers would be to close distance quickly as to nullify mid to high kicks (as per Russian vid) and employ low kicks to weaken the legs and slow down the opponent's speed. BTW, to condition yourself to get hit at the hips is part of Kyokushn low-kick defense training.

[Bassai]

@ax3ninja Yes, I know Serkan Yilmaz, and I saw him defeated by Masato with low kicks here on You Tube. But that's veering away from the original argument. You had said a decent Tae Kwon Do guy can get into a Kyokushin tournament and easily break a few bones with a side kick or spinning back kick. Serkan does not fight with Kyokushin rules, and does K-1. If he does do a Kyokushin tournament and does well, then he's the example you need.