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Love you so much my brothers and sisters in Christ! Praise the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!
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@BrianChillz - The Universe doesn't care about how you feel about how it works. Things pop into and out of existence trillions of times a second - we know this from Quantum Mechanics. I'm not claiming to know how the Universe came to be (or whether that even makes sense as a question) - but to claim that God created it, and to do so without evidence, and to think that other people should believe you, is even more insane. The life on Earth is clearly not intelligently designed.
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@Cyber0Bill umm God can do what so ever he pleases.. he didnt create sin.. we did. he did create the opportunity for us to choose sin because if he didnt, we would basically be forced to love him.. and true love is a choice.. otherwise we would all be robots.. which im sure ur afraid of if u believe in God... thats not the case.. he knew in our stupidity and selfishness would eventually sin.. he didnt change his mind about hell, its still there, but wasnt for us but the devil........
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@Cyber0Bill God dwells in eternity, as u know.. or should i say heard.. therefore he has always been, and always will be.. but for our universe.. it really does come down to, thinking nothing created everything.. nothing- meaning NO THING- or as Aristotle says- that which rocks dream about.. or SOMETHING created everything.. if i had to chose.. i would NOT choose nothing.. thats insane.. IDK is fine but NOTHING>? no no no..Intelligent Design, look it up.
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Good Catch, fishermen !!
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@thewayofthemaster The laws of physic do not describe the Universe as random. The laws describe a Universe built on probabilities. Gravity is not random or chaotic, it follows a rule set, as do atoms and snowflakes. There is no evidence to suggest that those rules were created by an outside entity, let alone created by a god. And if it takes an external intelligence to write rules - then who wrote THAT rule? I guess that a bigger god must have made your god? ad infinitum...
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@Cyber0Bill Name any rule that did not have a rule maker. Any law that did not have a law maker. If there a natural rules and laws, an intelligence put them in place. In your worldveiw, there should be random chaos in the universe all the way down to snowflakes and atoms.
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@fletchdrebon What intelligence creates snow flakes? What intelligence is required to hold two hydrogen atoms together with an oxygen atom? None. The Universe is not intelligent, it just follows certain rules. Every rock on Earth came into existence because of the physical laws of nature - not because a god created them. Eventually if you go back far enough, all you can say is "I don't know" which is a far cry from "God did it".
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@Cyber0Bill 1st off, I want 2 stress I enjoy these discussions and am not trying to be confrontational.No anger on my part and I sense ur also coming from a good place and I detect no anomosity (good stuff). Moving on, the universe creating itself is unimaginable unless you r calling the universe "God". There wud hav 2b intelligence to create (a rock or a stick can't create or paint, etc...). So if that's wut ur sayin...okay. But there has to be intelligence involved, right?
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@fletchdrebon - "something from nothing can't be" - Why not? The things that we recognize as impossible on the scale of human beings is only a tiny fraction of what is possible. At the quantum mechanical level, things pop in and out of existence all the time, and there is no 'creator' creating them. The recent Stephen Hawking book investigates this thoroughly, and finds that the Universe most likely created itself.
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@Cyber0Bill Good points. I'm not coming from the thinking that bcuz everything is so complex there must be a creator. More coming from the standpoint of struggling with the idea that something came from nothing. There had to be an original something to create something (cause and effect). To ur point about "what created God" doesn't follow my logic, but maybe that's where it starts. There has to be a starting point. Not bcuz of complexity, but bcuz something from nothing can't be
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Ray's argument is really fragmented and non-sequitor. "If you kill someone and stand in front of a judge and say you're sorry, is he going to let you off? Of course not" - followed by "Jesus died for your sins, this was a legal transaction, so you have to trust in Jesus and repent" - Repenting is saying you're sorry for what you did. That means its absolutely nothing like going to a judge and saying you're sorry, right? So why say that it is? The truth is, there is no heaven, hell, nor god.
Cyber0Bill 1 year ago
@Cyber0Bill You missed a part there. The judge (God) can you let go free not because you are sorry but because Jesus stepped in and took your punishment. In the same way someone can pay your fine (the wages of sin is death) but until then you are on the hook for it.
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