Australian History from an Aboriginal perspective (Robbie Thorpe PART 4 of 5)

Part 4: Robbie Thorpe, of the Gunai people in S/E Victoria, giving a talk to Law students at Deakin University (Geelong, Australia) on 15 May 2009. **IN 5 Parts**

Subjects include:

1. The Legal questions of GENOCIDE and JURISDICTION. Do Australian courts have the jurisdiction to charge Aborigines in Australia? Under what jurisdiction? What is the real LAW of the LAND?

2. Climate change and Environmental Sustainability. Indigenous culture managed to sustain their way of life for 60,000+ years; European colonizers have almost destroyed the Australian ecosystem after barely 200 years of settlement. Is the ecocide fundamentally connected to the genocide and to European colonization and its industrial revolution?

3. Thoughts on the Native Title process, of which Robbie has recently started collaborating in preparing the Gunai/Kurnai claim for his mob. STAY TUNED to TheJuiceMedia for updates on this claim!

4. An overview of Aboriginal Activism and HISTORY key people tied to the topics of Sovereignty, Treaty, Terra Nullius the Aboriginal Embassy.

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[SupermarketsRevil]

@judytafe There were mass slaughters in many cases, yes. Genocide? Debatable. That was the way every empire worked back then. You get in the way, you get a bullet in the head, or some other grisly death. Is it sad and would I baww about it if I was an aborigine? Yeah, but it's done, so it's okay to remember it but dont forget about doing something useful today. None of my ancestors did that shit. Now you shold be looking for ways to help aborigines fit into modern society.

[judytafe]

@SupermarketsRevil Yeah they gave the small pox blankets to our people to wipe them out, raped our woman and gave them diseases, stole our children to assimilate them masacred our people its all genocide you only get taught white man's history be good if you learnt what really happened to destroy and wipe out the ABORIGINALS our history.

[SupermarketsRevil]

@birdhall31 When i said 'contribute to society', you seem to have misunderstood me. It appears you thought I was referring to africans/african-americans in general. This is not the case.  I was talking specifically about you. This anti-westerner hatred you're pushing is not helpful to the cause of an egalitarian and harmonious society.

[SupermarketsRevil]

@birdhall31 False dichotomy. There is no 'your people' and there is no 'my people'. People stand on their on individual merits. You don't get credit, or blame, for anything your ancestors did. All this generalising is blatant bigotry. You are doing the same thing that europeans did to african slaves back back in the times of slavery; that is, making blanket discriminatory generalisations against a particular ethnic group.

You're not doing a very good job of fighting for equality.

[birdhall31]

@SupermarketsRevil You don't know shit. You can't say anything bad about my people that would even come close to what ya'll have contributed to society.

Besides how you gonna tell me to contribute something to society? We already did over 400+ years of contributing to society and for what? So ya'll can steal our shit all over again smh.

[SupermarketsRevil]

@birdhall31 Because I know my family history. You think the idea that my ancestors were involved in any of this is funny? This is consistent with you bitching about this for no other reason than because you want an excuse to hate whitey.

Stop crying and contribute something useful to society. Do you hear me bitching about every bad thing an african has ever done?

[birdhall31]

@SupermarketsRevil How you know your folks weren't involved??? They prolly were the main ones fucking shit up over there lol.

[SupermarketsRevil]

@birdhall31 "My people"? So you expect me to share the blame for the actions of these people that have nothing to do with me? I'm no more in favour of genocide than you are, and my family and ancestors weren't involved in any of that shit.

What good does it do to blame all white people for crimes that a small group of people committed? Do I blame you for shit that some african that lived a couple of centuries ago did? Stop blaming me for something I had nothing to do with.

[birdhall31]

@SupermarketsRevil Lol you're right this is Native American land, but ya'll stole that too smh. My ancestors were brought here by force, I'm a stolen African to be quite honest. Where would I go though, back to my country??? That's the black man's big dilemma here in the US, we don't know what country in Africa we were taken from so we're stuck here. But on the real, your people did those Aborigines wrong. Most of them are totally wiped out, extinct, language lost forever. 

[SupermarketsRevil]

@birdhall31 So by that logic anyone who ever took land that was occupied by other humans has no right to be there. In that case we're all fucked. What are you doing in the US? That's Native American land. are you gonna gtfo so they have their land back? I think not. How about you stop trying to blame whitey for everything and actually do something constructive to work towards making your community a better one for everyone.