The Ethics of Hell

The Ethics of Hell

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• atheist
• faith
• jesus
• islam
• hell

[wilie123]

all religions and religious beliefs are an insult to the 21st century informed and rational mind

[hab99rry]

Even if all this crap was real, a finite amount of sin does not justify infinite punishment. People refute this by saying "God is infinite, so you must have infinite torture," but that still doesn't make any sense. If hell really is fiery, anyone that is there for just a minute would cry out for God to save them, but God won't come, which goes against the "limitless forgiveness" doctrine. All religions are fucked up dogmatic bullshit.

[666lilnickY]

@Scentless First try to remember what it was like before you were born. you can't, because you had no consciousness, and no brain activity. in death all brain activity stops and you don't realize you're dead because you can't. there's no need to be afraid of death because you can't be afraid. There could be some kind of way your consciousness goes on after death and recycled but nobody knows for sure.

Brains are similar to computers, shut a computer off, and it can't process, or "think".

[zecle]

"how a perfectly succesful meme can quickly become a liability."

that's why i believe in Ceiling Cat. Lolcat is the True way to salvation.

[RhyzBell]

@Scentless True, you have my sympathies.



[qwexas]

@halphalphalphalp Have you heard that if you ask 10 eye-witnesses, you'll get 10 different accounts of what happened? I think that happened to God. Too many people gave too many descriptions, and some aren't very compatible with others. Ask a Christian to describe Jesus, and they'll probably describe their ideal self instead, so descriptions won't line up. If you believe everything all of them say, the composite will be incredible, like a dozen people being one.

[qwexas]

@halphalphalphalp How God can be benevolent yet create Hell, I can't resolve. It's even harder when free will comes in. How can God be all-loving, all-powerful, and all-knowing, if sin and Hell exist. If God knows when we will sin, this implies it's our destiny not free will. In that case it seems unloving to allow us to sin and then damn us for what we were destined to do. If God exists, and is all these seemingly contradictory things, He must be psychologically disturbed.

[halphalphalphalp]

@qwexas it's not about binding god to the morality of god's religion, it's about the claim that god is benevolent, which is central to most religion, that is the problem.

it is completely reasonable to have a god like cthulhu or satan creating a hell because, as you say, he is not bound by the ethics he asks us to abide by. but to claim a god that does creates hell is also benevolent and good, is a contradiction.

[qwexas]

@halphalphalphalp If nothing can exist without God creating it, including ethics, then God must have created various sets of ethics, since different people have different ethics. But anyway, for us to try to apply our own ethics to what God does, would be cute. Our ethics cannot bind God, and can barely bind us (maybe God invented the violation of ethics). If God created both Hell and ethics that prohibit creating Hell, He shows that He is not bound by that set of ethics.

[halphalphalphalp]

@qwexas no, if god exists in the form claimed then everything including our ethics is HIS invention.