Voddie Baucham - Evil/Philosophy

Voodie Baucham describes how he answers secular philosophy students on the question of evil and suffering. This was from the 2006 Desiring God National Conference with John Piper.

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[stoneez67]

"A fool finds no pleasure in understanding, but delights in airing his own opinions." Proverbs 18:2

[Providential1611]

So you say NOW. But upon death, you will find out differently. It will be too late then. Stop lying to yourself. You are a sinner. You know you have done evil, you break God's laws, you have violated your own inner God-given law, your conscience, and you will answer for your criminality. Jesus Christ is the Saviour of humble, repentant sinners. Repent and cry out to God for mercy

[chrismca]

What is this buffoon doing on a college campus? Colleges are dedicated to the pursuit of the truth, and this fool won't answer a student's question unless they put it in a form that he can deal with. Then he "answers" with a bunch of guilt-filled, superstition that he could never defend in an honest, logical debate! His treatment of students is neither ethically nor logically defensible. What "college" would host this foul, bullying poltroon? Shame on him and the “school” giving him a platform!

[dougmoerhoffman]

SOLID

[LiveRaidei]

@quaternio I just sent you a message. This box couldnt contain the enough characters...

[quaternio]

@LiveRaidei Then God is infinitely more wicked then any person in history, or do you too think we should punish all the descendants of criminals?

If I am wrong, and a god does in fact exist, my conscience is clear. God does not author what is moral. Anyone that kills children, rather than just killing the damned pharaoh, is a villain. I will not side with a monster like that; "as for my house, we will serve the innocent and the just," for no deity needs or deserves worship.

[LiveRaidei]

@quaternio Well, I wouldn't put it so masochistically but the deformities and problems of the world are the result of Adam's sin Genesis 3:17. The earth was cursed for his disobedience. But to be honest everything you just wrote is a human-centered emotionalist response to a Biblical truth. It would seem cold to you for me to say that God knew exactly what he was doing with your stated situations but that is the truth and your refusal to accept that does not negate the truth of it.

[punksush1]

We need more real men like this in the world

[SteampunkPagan]

Yep dodge that argument

[quaternio]

LOL, people who are educated are so hilarious and quaint. It's not true, rather, that a single course in philosophy refutes Voddie's position, not at all!

Voddie's right. Those stupid children with fatal birth defects definitely deserved it. Not to mention those children that live to ten years with normal intelligence and a gruesome physical deformity. They definitely deserved to live just long enough to understand that everyone that would ever look upon them would cringe in disgust.

/sarcasm

[spoondawg27]

@stoneez67 This is really ironic... Then again I guess most of the Christians watching this are really just enjoying familiar perspectives rather than inundating everyone with them.

[jujuguy]

His his answer is deep. Evil isn't in the "world", out "there" somewhere. Evil is in the human heart. It's in you-and me. That's not presumption-it's experience, and honest acknowledgement!

Virtues exist-there IS a standard of some sort; we can all agree that it is "good" to be honorable, have integrity, honesty, excellence. Yet who hasn't betrayed these virtues?

So-God allows evil because WE are evil. He wants to redeem us, not destroy us. Seems like a pretty clear answer to me.