This dialouge was written down by kierah16. She has her own channel here on youtube. Thank you very much, Kierah16.
Interviewer: I know that you say death is psychologically just as important as birth and like it is an integral part of life, but surely, it can't be like birth if it is an end. Can it?
Jung: Yes. If it is an end and there we are not quite certain about this end because we know that there are these pecular faculties of the psyche- that it isn't entirely confined to space and time. You can have dreams or visions of the future. You can see around corners and such things. Only igonrants deny these facst (ja - german). Its quite evident that they do exist and have existed always. Now these facts show that the psyche- in part, at least- is not dependent on these confinements. And then what? When the psyche is not under that obligation to....live in time and space alone- and obviously, it doesn't. Then, in .. to that extent, they psyche is not submitted to those laws and that means a..a practical continuation of life of a sort of psychical existence beyond time and space.
Interviewer: Do you- yourself believe that death is probably the end or do you believe....
Jung: Well, I can't say - wissen Sie ? (german translated wold be: you see ?)- the word "believe" is a difficult thing for me. I don't "believe"; I must have a reason for a certain hypothesis. Either I know a thing; and when I KNOW it, I don't need to believe it. If I- I don't allow myself, for instance, to believe a thing just for sake of believing it. I can't believe it! But when there are sufficient reasons for a certain hypothesis, I shall accept these reasons naturally. And to say "We have to recon with the possibility of [so and so]." You know?
Interviewer: Well...now you told us that we should regard death as being a goal and to stray away from it is to evade life and life's purpose. What advice would you give to people in their later life to enable them to do this when most of them must, in fact, believe that death is the end of everything?
Jung: Well...you see I have treated many old people and its quite interesting to watch what their conscious doing with the fact that it is apparantly threatened with the complete end. It disregards it. Life behaves as if it were going on and so I think it is better for old people to live on...to look forward to the next day; as if he had to spend centuries and then he lives happily, but when he is afraid and he doesn't looks forward; he looks back. He petrifies. He gets stiff and he dies before his time, but when hes living on, looking forward to the great adventture that is ahead, then he lives. And that is about what your concious is intending to do. Of course it is quite obvious that we're all going to die and this is the sad finale of everything, but never-the-less, there is something in us that doesn't believe it, apparently, but this is merely a fact, a psychological fact. Doesn't mean to me that it proves something. It is simply so. For instance, I may not know why we need salt, but we prefer to eat salt too because we feel better. And so when you think in a certain way, you may feel considerably better. And I think if you think along the lines of nature, then you think properly
@roman14032 On the contrary. There is another answer. That he is committing intellectual fraud through a simple direct appeal to his own authority.
The fraud of modern accounting is a powerful tool. So too was Jung's work. It is still a fraud. The evidence is in the great harm the industries of advertising and psychiatry built around it has done. Just as the cancer epidemic and ecological destruction speak to accounting's failures.
It is a simple appeal to authority.
momentinpassing 4 hours ago
only the self-evident requries no proof.
the only answer is he had these experiences himself.
roman14032 4 hours ago
now, a real hard ass would say, how is it "obvious" that apects of the mind or psyche or conciouness or whatever you want to call it are not dependent apon or in someway transend time and space?
you can't prove it. if something transends space how can you messure its dementions?
if something transends time how can you discribe it's cuasality? no before, no during, no after?
how can a scientist as great as jung certainly was not requrie objective evidence of such a thing?
roman14032 4 hours ago
you don't understand what Jung means....stop trying to interpret his words with your opinion
TheUndertakerSaysRIP 1 day ago
Jung does not say "wissen Sie" anywhere in this video. (line 19)
Mal1234567 3 days ago
@hznfrst You could learn a vast new and subtle way of looking at the world of the mind if you actually read some of Jung. But you don't really care to know do you.
T1Brit 5 days ago
The question is meaningless. Example: A football team. What is a football team. Some would say it is the players. Some would say it is the moves and the strategies they make - it is a dance of kinds. Some would say it is an idea that lives in many minds. Some would say it only exists when it is together as one, playing a game.
When the game ends - is the team dead? When the team is disbanded, but the players are still alive, is the team dead? Is it dead if the idea lives on?
Only the ego dies.
T1Brit 5 days ago
The g in this blithering idiot's name should really be a k, and that would describe his whole philosophy to a t.
hznfrst 5 days ago
I showed this to someone and he said, 'this guy is just speculating'. I read some comments that say 'this is his opinion'. Opining and speculating is exactly what Jung is not doing. He is simply acknowledging facts about the psyche. His understanding of the nature of the psyche was profoundly keen. Long live this mystic.
nickfortino 1 week ago