This is a recording of the preface to Max Stirner's famous book, The Ego and His Own.
This is taken from a Librivox recording which is not finished yet, but hopefully soon will be.
Go here to see the project:
http://librivox.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=203398
@Mig440 What is a good translation I could buy? The one you mentioned is the primary one that i can find on Amazon.
kingnat2 1 month ago
Thanks for the upload. Never heard of this guy before but will definitely get this book now.
rooleybbq 3 months ago
@TheAnonymousAnomie A healthy one
ruzickaw 3 months ago
@ruzickaw Apparently Wolfi Landstreicher is working on an improved English translation :)
d3r3inzi93 3 months ago
@dewinthemorning Yes, ordinary people nead other people because they cannot be alone. Each enjoys his own pleasure. He uses others to get his pleasure.
You are right: I care for another person when she is sick, hoping that she will care for me when i am sick.
That is what Stirner says: Everybody has just his own interest in mind.
ruzickaw 3 months ago
@ruzickaw Yes, in the case with the baker the situation is as you describe, social norms are necessary there, but one needs the company of family or the circle of friends just for a chat, spending time together or doing something special together. This brings pleasure to both parties involved.
If someone is ill, you would probably do something for them or take care of them to your own detriment. Of course someone may do the same for you.
dewinthemorning 3 months ago
@dewinthemorning Yes, i need the baker because i want my bread. And the baker needs me because he wants my money. He is not interested in me as a person but only in his profit , as i am not interested in him but in the bread for my breakfast. That does not say that i disregard social norms, no. I pay the price for the bread that the baker asks.
And i hope he does not cheat me by giving me less bread for my money. So we both follow the norm. But we both are only interested in our own interest.
ruzickaw 3 months ago
@ruzickaw "exploit each other"
Yes, that is happening, but the point is that every person is closely connected with other people through his needs in the present time, through events that happent in the social history, and through biological evolution. That is why Stirner is not right when he says that the Ego can disregard all social norms and values and devote his activities only to achieving one's own desires.
dewinthemorning 3 months ago
It turns my stomac when i listen to these bad translations. DER EINZIGE can not be translated as EGO, it means "the only one". EIGENTUM is property .
In the original Stirners uses just one word SACHE but the translator is jumping from one tranlation to the other: " concern, cause,"
ruzickaw 3 months ago
@dewinthemorning Yes we need each other to exploit each other.
ruzickaw 3 months ago